From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: wgreenhouse-sGOZH3hwPm2sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org (W. Greenhouse) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What's an even easier explanation how to setup gnus ... Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2013 02:44:47 +0000 Message-ID: <87ppsqei8w.fsf@motoko.kusanagi> References: <5i61va9u7p.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87wqmzjvly.fsf@gmail.com> <985927b0-0d56-47f7-bfdb-ae1b1670d4b0@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1378176323 24286 80.91.229.3 (3 Sep 2013 02:45:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 02:45:23 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Tue Sep 03 04:45:26 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VGgcO-0005xX-06 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 04:45:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42818 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGgcN-0002Om-Lu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 22:45:23 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57030) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGgc8-0002NV-DW for help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 22:45:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGgc2-0001a7-7Y for help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 22:45:08 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:44725) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VGgc2-0001Wb-1H for help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 22:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VGgc0-0005nu-Fg for help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 04:45:00 +0200 Original-Received: from cryptofortress.com ([174.136.111.250]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 04:45:00 +0200 Original-Received: from wgreenhouse by cryptofortress.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2013 04:45:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 16 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-dbVV3NMTNubNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cryptofortress.com X-Archive: encrypt User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:CMpdd2kbBNj3VDX3OiUZ7kSvqV4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93211 Archived-At: Rustom Mody writes: > On Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:56:04 AM UTC+5:30, W. Greenhouse wrote: >> >> My grandmother (and presumably many people's grandparents) used >> computers for work, and they were command-line based with monochrome >> displays. Why assume that touchscreen GUIs are inherently intuitive? >> (Hint: the fact that they don't come with manuals is not evidence of this). > > Not sure what you are saying. It appears to me that the definition of > intuitive' is exactly this -- not needing study. See for example: > http://vocabulary-vocabulary.com/dictionary/intuitive.php But modern GUIs do require study and experience to develop facility with them. They just don't come with documentation, meaning that the study is by rote only.