From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Emacs very alive, active and improving? Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2013 01:35:26 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87pprkbodk.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1380930017 869 80.91.229.3 (4 Oct 2013 23:40:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 23:40:17 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 05 01:40:19 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VSEyo-0005MV-KE for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Oct 2013 01:40:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50107 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VSEyn-0000U6-Jz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 19:40:17 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 43 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: VVbyYd/iFZoeWNmD9i++cQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:NBpxVc18svsaCfRxPGpfkhRzMEc= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:201581 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93851 Archived-At: Bob Proulx writes: >> Probably emacs is the only text editor on the >> internet with its own podcast (emacs rocks). > > Even though I prefer to use emacs over vim I must > admit that vim probably has more podcasts about it > than emacs does. :-( > > But remember it isn't a popularity contest. Trying to > be popular often causes problems. Let's avoid that > trap. People today are brain damaged. They are content with hammering on their "smart"phones (with their thumbs, *on* the display) to get their quick fix from YouTube (two cats fighting, or a guy dropping his donut in the coffee, perhaps) - they can't use any serious software, let alone Emacs. You may think that I am mean and ironic about it, but I'm not, I'm dead serious, and I think it is a very sad state, not just for them but for me. I remember when everyone who used a computer was creative about it. Today, almost the only people that are not *moronic* about it are hacker fanatics, hunted across the galaxy like some unbelievers. So I don't think it matters one bit what we do, Emacs (or any serious software) will never capture the imagination of the masses, and it will never be popular - actually, I have a hard time seeing that even among computer people (or among people who pretends to be). The only group that I see a small hope for are professional writers, translators, and such. I don't know how they typically do their stuff, but I think they would *love* Emacs! -- Emanuel Berg, programmer-for-rent. CV, projects, etc at uXu underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573