From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thorsten Jolitz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: contractor resources for emacs extension development Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 22:01:35 +0200 Message-ID: <87ppr3zmxs.fsf@gmail.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382040133 12817 80.91.229.3 (17 Oct 2013 20:02:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2013 20:02:13 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 17 22:02:18 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VWtly-0007Ro-1L for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 22:02:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54047 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VWtlx-0005jC-KW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:02:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45331) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VWtlc-0005ai-VS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VWtlX-0004Zq-00 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:01:56 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:55715) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VWtlW-0004Zh-Pc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 16:01:50 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VWtlT-0007CH-G8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 22:01:47 +0200 Original-Received: from g231233049.adsl.alicedsl.de ([92.231.233.49]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 22:01:47 +0200 Original-Received: from tjolitz by g231233049.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 17 Oct 2013 22:01:47 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 58 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: g231233049.adsl.alicedsl.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.130002 (Ma Gnus v0.2) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:iP4ZLPSulWuXSU/wbykoVeU+Iew= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94063 Archived-At: ckhan writes: > I would like to hire help writing an emacs extension > > - it would be something that is generally useful, not specific to a > particular usecase or 3rd party integration/company (essentially, a > new kind of outline mode) I did a lot of work with regards to a new kind of outline (minor) mode recently (with the basic idea of "Org-mode everywhere" in my mind, i.e. of giving source-code buffers the look&feel of Org-mode buffers). The result was this library-trio - outshine.el :: enhancements to outline-minor-mode that make it possible to structure a source-code file with Org-mode like headlines and offer Org-style headline fontification, visibility cycling, motion and structure editing [https://github.com/tj64/outshine] - outorg.el :: converts (outshine) source-code buffers to Org-mode and offers them for editing in a temporary *outorg-edit-buffer* [https://github.com/tj64/outorg] - navi-mode.el :: superfast navigation and 'remote-buffer-control' via an permanent associated *Navi* buffer that offers a vast number of (combined) headline and keyword views on an outshine buffer [https://github.com/tj64/navi] These libraries make possible a different kind of "literate programming" with the focus on the programming instead of, as usual, on the text. You can do your main work in a specialised Emacs major-mode (e.g. emacs-lisp-mode or R-mode) for writing source code, but these source-code buffers can be structured like Org-mode buffers (with the same look&feel). Whenever you need some serious text editing of the comment sections, you fire up the *outorg-edit-buffer* and have the full power of Org-mode available. Here is a screencast on youtube that illustrates how to use the libraries with emacs-lisp buffers, but they can be used with many major-modes (outorg works e.g. with message-mode too, therefore I'm writing this email in full Org-mode right now). > - the resulting work would be freely available and open source (GPL) > > Searching the usual outsourcing sites (elance, odesk, etc.) turn up > very few hits for keywords like "emacs" or "elisp". Does anyone have > any suggestions for how to find folks that might be up for this kind > of work? Alternatively, if I took a crude first stab at it myself and > put it up on github, how could I use cash to grease development? > > Any suggestions, comments appreciated. No matter what new kind of outline mode you are looking for, I might be able to help you with that, since enhancing outline-mode was the focus of my recent Emacs Lisp programming projects. I would be available from next month on (November), so you might want to contact me per email. -- cheers, Thorsten