From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: APL mode Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:09:43 +0900 Message-ID: <87ppqqt4s8.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <2556707.G5KkrEK5zp@descartes> <2175241.EV4ttzPlpJ@descartes> <52603276.70404@harpegolden.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382933406 13818 80.91.229.3 (28 Oct 2013 04:10:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 04:10:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Rustom Mody , =?utf-8?Q?J=C3=BCrgen?= Sauermann , emacs-devel To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 28 05:10:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vae9Z-0003LY-B9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 05:10:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39862 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vae9Y-0004iS-QM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:10:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55836) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vae9O-0004e6-Rt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:10:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vae9H-0003Tm-Ip for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:09:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:49683) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vae9H-0003TL-8x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:09:51 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C369707DD; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:09:43 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E65311A28EB; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 13:09:43 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 182d01410b8d XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164591 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > While I agree that it might sounds unEmacsish, key-sequences aren't > that bad compared to key-chords. Not in my experience ... but I only use key-sequence-based input methods for Spanish (<5% non-ASCII characters) and Japanese (80% of characters requires multiple keystrokes no matter what input method you use, and in the very popular "romanized phonetic" methods, all characters do). I cannot say I'd not be unhappy if the ratio got to 50% or so. Steve