From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10451: 24.0.92; Bad cross reference in Info manual Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 21:25:42 -0800 Message-ID: <87ppmwamcp.fsf@building.gnus.org> References: <8D2AE03A32444871A12AB1FEF6E31673@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1391923693 25180 80.91.229.3 (9 Feb 2014 05:28:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2014 05:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10451@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 09 06:28:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WCMwC-0007qF-5Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 06:28:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49326 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCMwB-0000qw-Ge for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 00:28:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43057) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCMw3-0000qq-T9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 00:28:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCMvy-00044O-Hq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 00:28:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:44964) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WCMvy-00044H-Eb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 00:28:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCMvx-0007lH-UU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 00:28:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2014 05:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10451 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 10451-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10451.139192363229745 (code B ref 10451); Sun, 09 Feb 2014 05:28:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10451) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Feb 2014 05:27:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58980 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCMv9-0007jh-HW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 00:27:11 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:47019) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WCMv7-0007jZ-Km for 10451@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 00:27:10 -0500 Original-Received: from [204.14.154.233] (helo=building.gnus.org) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1WCMut-0006Ao-Ht; Sun, 09 Feb 2014 06:26:55 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8D2AE03A32444871A12AB1FEF6E31673@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Fri, 8 Feb 2013 13:09:45 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-MailScanner-ID: 1WCMut-0006Ao-Ht MailScanner-NULL-Check: 1392528415.98103@daBTeD2FC3ZVcbSiaFAA3Q X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:85060 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: > I've reopened this bug. It was closed with no explanation, and the bug is still > there. > > This is about _Emacs_ users who are reading the Info manual, which is an > introduction to using Info to read manuals. > > The text tries to teach you about links to other manuals, and tells you to > follow the given cross-book link. That link is broken, because it links to a > manual that is not even included with Emacs. We are sending readers down the > garden path, confusing them and making them wonder whether they might be doing > something wrong. > > Such instructions (essentially tutorial text) should just plain work. When you hit that link "Info file texinfo does not exist", which I think is a clear enough signal to the user that they might consider installing the relevant info file. Closing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/