From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: replacing a function with another one Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 16:41:52 +0100 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <87pplsivy7.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> References: <87vbvofsi6.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87bnxgs4r9.fsf@web.de> <87lhwj1cfz.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87zjkz6vd5.fsf@web.de> <8738ir161u.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87eh2b6nfm.fsf@web.de> <87r46anab5.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87vbvleiey.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87vbvlbm8p.fsf@web.de> <87siqpsdgs.fsf@yun.yagibdah.de> <87iorljkhx.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1394564933 26554 80.91.229.3 (11 Mar 2014 19:08:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 19:08:53 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 11 20:09:02 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WNS2u-00066d-Po for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 20:09:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56999 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WNS2u-0001f3-Ar for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 15:09:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52151) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WNS1x-0000NZ-Vd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 15:08:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WNS1k-00024R-H6 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 15:08:01 -0400 Original-Received: from client-194-42-186-216.muenet.net ([194.42.186.216]:52388 helo=yun.yagibdah.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WNS1k-00023s-3H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 15:07:48 -0400 Original-Received: from lee by yun.yagibdah.de with local (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WNS1g-0002mU-M0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Mar 2014 20:07:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87iorljkhx.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:51:38 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 194.42.186.216 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:96430 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: > lee writes: > >> I can=C2=B4t get advice-add to work. The documentation doesn=C2=B4t exp= lain it, > > That's not true. Technically you find everything you need to know in > the documentation. "Food is edible. Technically, that=C2=B4s all you need to know." That doesn=C2=B4t explain anything about food. It=C2=B4s like saying "1 is= (1 + 1 is 2)", which doesn=C2=B4t explain anything, either. > The problem is that it does say nothing at all about usage in > practice, no examples, etc. It's absolutely not sufficient for > beginners. That's indeed a problem - there is already a bug report > about it, btw. Maybe the problem is that add-advice is too complicated and convoluted. I learned about defadvice in like no time, it=C2=B4s clear and simple --- while advice-add is anything but. > If you feel better with the "old" advice.el, just use this. It will > probably be still supported in many years, just because many third party > packages use it. And ppl might continue to use defadvice because it=C2=B4s clear and simple. I don=C2=B4t feel better with it, though. It has been replaced, and the replacement seems to lead to better code, so I=C2=B4d rather use that. But thinking of it ... When I=C2=B4m using advices, they go for all the advised functions. Someone might want to use hi-lock mode the same way they used to and only want the modified behaviour with particular buffers. Considering all that, wouldn=C2=B4t it be much better to create my own mode? --=20 Knowledge is volatile and fluid. Software is power.