Status of trunk

Status of trunk

[Bill Wohler]

I apologize for missing the memo, but judging from the logs in the
emacs-24 and trunk branches, I'm guessing that the current policy is
that emacs-24 is used for 24.4 fixes, which are later merged to trunk by
Glenn, and that trunk is open for business.

Am I warm?

Also, we have a couple of MH-E bugs on SourceForge related to
compatibility with new nmh releases (1.5 and more recently 1.6). Would
these qualify for checking in on the emacs-24 branch?

Are we still targeting a winter release?

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Re: Status of trunk

[Glenn Morris]

Bill Wohler wrote:

> I'm guessing that the current policy is that emacs-24 is used for 24.4
> fixes,

Yes.

>  which are later merged to trunk by Glenn,

(By anyone who feels like it, but often no-one seems to feel like it.)

> and that trunk is open for business.

Yes.

> Also, we have a couple of MH-E bugs on SourceForge related to
> compatibility with new nmh releases (1.5 and more recently 1.6). Would
> these qualify for checking in on the emacs-24 branch?

Not up to me, but showing the diff (it is not huge) would help to answer that.

Technically speaking, no; ref:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-05/msg00309.html

but if the changes are simple, probably yes. (But again, not up to me.)

> Are we still targeting a winter release?

Ha. There is no "target" AFAIK.

(Some people expressed a desire for more frequent releases, and I think
the phrase "every 6 months" was mentioned. The 24.4 feature freeze began
7 months ago...

There's no visible progress with any of the outstanding important bugs,
and no-one doing any serious documentation improvements.
Bug reports show that many people are using trunk rather than emacs-24.

So in summary I don't know when the release will be.
I hope it is a bit sooner than winter.)

Re: Status of trunk

[Bill Wohler]

Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> wrote:

> Bill Wohler wrote:
> 
> > I'm guessing that the current policy is that emacs-24 is used for 24.4
> > fixes,
> 
> Yes.
> 
> >  which are later merged to trunk by Glenn,
> 
> (By anyone who feels like it, but often no-one seems to feel like it.)
> 
> > and that trunk is open for business.
> 
> Yes.
>
> > Also, we have a couple of MH-E bugs on SourceForge related to
> > compatibility with new nmh releases (1.5 and more recently 1.6). Would
> > these qualify for checking in on the emacs-24 branch?
> 
> Not up to me, but showing the diff (it is not huge) would help to answer that.
> 
> Technically speaking, no; ref:
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-05/msg00309.html
> 
> but if the changes are simple, probably yes. (But again, not up to me.)

Thanks, Glenn!

In that case, perhaps checking changes into trunk, submitting the patch
for review, and merging it into emacs-24 if accepted (so you don't need
to get involved :-) might be a good policy in the short term. Would you
agree?

> > Are we still targeting a winter release?
> 
> Ha. There is no "target" AFAIK.
> 
> (Some people expressed a desire for more frequent releases, and I think
> the phrase "every 6 months" was mentioned. The 24.4 feature freeze began
> 7 months ago...
> 
> There's no visible progress with any of the outstanding important bugs,
> and no-one doing any serious documentation improvements.
> Bug reports show that many people are using trunk rather than emacs-24.
> 
> So in summary I don't know when the release will be.
> I hope it is a bit sooner than winter.)

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Re: Status of trunk

[Glenn Morris]

Bill Wohler wrote:

> In that case, perhaps checking changes into trunk, submitting the patch
> for review, and merging it into emacs-24 if accepted (so you don't need
> to get involved :-) might be a good policy in the short term. Would you
> agree?

I appreciate the sentiment, but that's not a good way to do it.
It is better to make the changes in emacs-24 in the first place,
if that is where they are to go.

Just send the patch here and wait for Stefan (who currently has limited
email access) to ok/not ok it.

Re: Status of trunk

[Bill Wohler]

Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes:

> Bill Wohler wrote:
>
>> In that case, perhaps checking changes into trunk, submitting the patch
>> for review, and merging it into emacs-24 if accepted (so you don't need
>> to get involved :-) might be a good policy in the short term. Would you
>> agree?
>
> I appreciate the sentiment, but that's not a good way to do it.
> It is better to make the changes in emacs-24 in the first place,
> if that is where they are to go.
>
> Just send the patch here and wait for Stefan (who currently has limited
> email access) to ok/not ok it.

Yeah, I got *that* memo that Stefan is on walkabout. Will do, thanks!

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Re: Status of trunk

[Stefan Monnier]

> So in summary I don't know when the release will be.

Damn, and here I was, counting on you!

> I hope it is a bit sooner than winter.)

So do I.


        Stefan