From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Everyone, please stop making my life more difficult Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:43:48 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87ppf0vlff.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20140912043652.4D6D8380604@snark.thyrsus.com> <83zje56ymd.fsf@gnu.org> <20140912083430.GA32586@thyrsus.com> <87mwa59i1r.fsf@igel.home> <20140912115739.GA3403@thyrsus.com> <87d2b19cbr.fsf@igel.home> <20140912155410.GA5086@thyrsus.com> <87wq9895j2.fsf@igel.home> <20140912162842.GF5086@thyrsus.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1410540281 6255 80.91.229.3 (12 Sep 2014 16:44:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 16:44:41 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 12 18:44:35 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XSTxY-0008TV-JB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:44:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46337 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSTxY-0004Wm-8N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:44:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53701) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSTx8-0004M7-OC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:44:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSTx3-0000vL-2k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:44:06 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:44372) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XSTx2-0000ux-T7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:44:01 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XSTx2-0008BF-13 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:44:00 +0200 Original-Received: from x2f500ac.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.245.0.172]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:44:00 +0200 Original-Received: from dak by x2f500ac.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:44:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f500ac.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:wwyY2Quf0rihaO76W8FbQ/R0k4Y= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:174240 Archived-At: "Eric S. Raymond" writes: > Andreas Schwab : >> "Eric S. Raymond" writes: >> >> > And actually changes the timestamps, which I would not have expected - >> > as someone else observed, I would have expected that to move the commits >> > wuthout changing the metadata. >> >> This is impossible, since the parents are part of the metadata. > > I didn't expect ito leave hashes unaltered, just the visible headers. A plain git log will not list the committer and commit date. So a rebase _does_ leave the visible headers unaltered. Pretty much the whole point for distinguishing author and committer and the respective dates is to distinguish the origin of a change and the person responsible for its state in the repository. -- David Kastrup