From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: package and testing rant (was Re: package.el, auto-installation, and auto-removal) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:27:26 +0000 Message-ID: <87ppctir5t.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <87a943umku.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ppcvm7fj.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87vbmndk46.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87wq72ls2h.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87k332lnn3.fsf_-_@ferrier.me.uk> <83fvdpn30d.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415726928 21464 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2014 17:28:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:28:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 11 18:28:41 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XoFF9-0001h3-4p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:28:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50002 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoFF8-0006El-Kq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:28:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41666) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoFEB-0004wH-Pu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:27:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoFE6-0001aa-Ib for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:27:39 -0500 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:55603 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XoFE0-0001YK-Q0; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:27:28 -0500 Original-Received: from nicferrier-dell-xps (140.35.155.90.in-addr.arpa [90.155.35.140]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 069DDAC0498; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 18:45:50 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from nicferrier-XPS13-9333 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nicferrier-dell-xps (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 783B16BA00; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:27:26 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <83fvdpn30d.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:57:54 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:176767 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Stefan Monnier >> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:24:21 -0500 >> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> Note that there is a fair bit a pressure to *add* rather than remove >> magic steps (the first candidate in the list is to build the *.info >> files from the *.texi files). > > I hope we will be able to resist that pressure. You're mistaking the build step. The build step is where you take sources and generate an artifact. Our artifacts are called packages. The user's install packages/artifacts. So any build complication is all on the author. As it should be. Nic