From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Shmakov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: intrusive changes Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:20:23 +0000 Message-ID: <87ppcbqh08.fsf_-_@violet.siamics.net> References: <87lhn7cfe0.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87egszcd3i.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87h9xvavjm.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874mtuc1hq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871torfjk8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sih7cjnn.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1416939668 28912 80.91.229.3 (25 Nov 2014 18:21:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:21:08 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 25 19:21:01 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XtKjV-000877-K3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:21:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58887 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XtKjV-0002Lf-6Q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:21:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40412) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XtKjN-0002LZ-Kg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:20:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XtKjF-0004XY-2J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:20:53 -0500 Original-Received: from fely.am-1.org ([2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2]:48536) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XtKjE-0004Fr-PP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 13:20:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=siamics.net; s=a2013295; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:Sender:References:Subject:To:From; bh=EeQ96wXpgglt+NADCrsC8C5nNJ51aE4xWmTGHWsY/Uc=; b=kIFPNHvN3Sx25Qa9PMHFya+nREzFf7ejP77AjKN+WTnw6AcfMnrsPFzI6MADh9Np1A2tBUpp2bUpdVUsl14bRhLFk8RC0op/LQiTNMcXt+k5egWwrRgvuz0jilE+H46wCcrKvicp7FiOi7ndiX57Z+95Zcf7Jd0mghqN7xF9e9k=; Original-Received: from [2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d] (helo=violet.siamics.net) by fely.am-1.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XtKj0-0005QE-K3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:20:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=violet.siamics.net) by violet.siamics.net with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XtKit-0001wz-HZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 01:20:23 +0700 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:08:39 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a01:4f8:d15:1b86::2 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:178269 Archived-At: >>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: [=E2=80=A6] > I know that any interface change will have some people just fuming. > Just have a peek at the bug report about the new "You can run the > command..." help thing, and that's really non-intrusive. Showing that prompt every single time the user does =E2=80=98M-x =E2= =80=99 isn=E2=80=99t something I=E2=80=99d call =E2=80=9Cnon-intrusive.=E2=80=9D Thanks for filing #19013, BTW, =E2=80=93 I=E2=80=99m not familiar with tha= t part of the code, and I would sure have spent quite some time searching for where to disable that feature at without reading the discussion that ensued. --=20 FSF associate member #7257 http://boycottsystemd.org/ =E2=80=A6 3013 B6A0= 230E 334A