From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 14:57:18 +0100 Message-ID: <87ppb6a4zl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvc8kdsp.fsf@gnu.org> <6e11cd85-09a0-4b7a-baa2-0c810bdebbce@default> <871tnsg0w7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834msoqrsg.fsf@gnu.org> <87k31ki3tc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <21657.38692.813089.642641@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0j4tqo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y4puad75.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419606398 18757 80.91.229.3 (26 Dec 2014 15:06:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 15:06:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tom Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 26 16:06:33 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4WTI-0003Bp-45 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 16:06:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53665 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4WTH-0002Gv-D2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 10:06:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42006) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4WTE-0002Gq-4d for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 10:06:28 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4WTD-0006tW-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 10:06:28 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36231) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4WTD-0006tS-64 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 10:06:27 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43406 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4WTC-0002XV-PK; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 10:06:27 -0500 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 15ECDE0565; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 14:57:18 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Tom's message of "Fri, 26 Dec 2014 13:30:12 +0000 (UTC)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180687 Archived-At: Tom writes: > David Kastrup gnu.org> writes: >> >> Google substitutes better quality with graceful failure based on >> heuristics. That works for some things better than others. It >> certainly will not help much replacing a "concept index" since the whole >> point of a concept index is _not_ to be based on exact keywords. >> > > Which is also true for Google, beacuse it automatically finds > alternate keywords (e.g. close file -> kill buffer) and it does it > better than any manually compiled index, because it takes into > account lots more variations. It puts up a lot more false positives, and sifting through them can make this quite useless. Particularly if we are talking about words that have also common meanings. Try Googling for the relation between "cat" and "less". -- David Kastrup