From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: gnuplot Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 04:47:14 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87pp9f7pvh.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87iof9f6qk.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1423712727 26501 80.91.229.3 (12 Feb 2015 03:45:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 03:45:27 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 12 04:45:27 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YLkiU-0008Tn-Cs for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2015 04:45:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48304 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YLkiT-0005V4-QW for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2015 22:45:25 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 56 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: feB02bRejf23rfBm51Mt7Q.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:+s/07fOk6Q8CJKuEuiErBdOSBEg= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:210386 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:102663 Archived-At: Javier Fernandez writes: > gnuplot despite its name is not 'free' software in > the sense of freedom. You can distribute gnuplot's > source, but you cannot distribute modified versions > of the source. Again, I'm not saying *gnuplot* should be included in Emacs, how now that would work :) I'm talking about the gnuplot-mode. In gnuplot-mode.el I read ;; Copyright (C) 2010-2013 Mike McCourt ;; ;; Authors: Mike McCourt <...> ;; URL: https://github.com/mkmcc/gnuplot ;; Version: 20131203.2159 ;; X-Original-Version: 1.2.0 ;; Keywords: gnuplot, plotting ;; This file is not part of GNU Emacs. It doesn't say anything about what (if any) licence is at work, but I would conclude from all this Mr McCourt have his reasons which we may or may not agree with, but again it doesn't matter because MELPA is here and gnuplot-mode is in MELPA and he who finds both Emacs and gnuplot will find MELPA, I'm confident. By the way, I CC this to the author: let's see what happens. > gnuplot seems to be an exception to the rule and is > pretty healthy (5.0 release was 1 month ago). I know > nothing about the authors, but they do a great work > and have to be working very hard to keep gnuplot > active. I think at some point they will release it > under a more liberal license. Otherwise gnuplot will > stagnate. Of course, I hope they continue work on gnuplot but I kind of disagree in the sense that I think gnuplot is just like a programming language: imagine from now on, no one ever did anything to modernize C - it could (and would) still be used to do a thousand super-cool present and future projects. I don't think the world of math, stats, and visualization will *ever* change that much as to make gnuplot with its current functionality level obsolete. > There are GPL programs with similar functionality And those are...? -- underground experts united