From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: yes-or-no-p prompt conditionally broken in master? Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 22:04:27 +0200 Message-ID: <87pp1yrlx0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <83fv2v9y9z.fsf@gnu.org> <57355235-9af7-49fb-81b5-93182cfc9d49@default> <83a8t39x3t.fsf@gnu.org> <83zj128slp.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2s6o7qh.fsf@igel.home> <83wpw68j2n.fsf@gnu.org> <871teenysf.fsf@igel.home> <83r3me8ho3.fsf@gnu.org> <20150904133439.GB2991@acm.fritz.box> <83lhcm83vl.fsf@gnu.org> <87fv2ut5k4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83k2s682el.fsf@gnu.org> <877fo6t4f9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83io7q7yrq.fsf@gnu.org> <83h9na7ydq.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441397098 20788 80.91.229.3 (4 Sep 2015 20:04:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2015 20:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 04 22:04:41 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXxE0-0006ZO-Jx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 22:04:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34848 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXxE0-00076J-Ss for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 16:04:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60778) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXxDx-000762-Ji for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 16:04:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXxDw-0001tJ-HT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 16:04:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60167) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXxDp-0001oR-Gr; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 16:04:29 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45753 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZXxDo-0004t0-CM; Fri, 04 Sep 2015 16:04:28 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CA41BE0FA8; Fri, 4 Sep 2015 22:04:27 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83h9na7ydq.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 04 Sep 2015 22:55:29 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189620 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 22:47:05 +0300 >> From: Eli Zaretskii >> Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, >> schwab@linux-m68k.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, >> kaushal.modi@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, drew.adams@oracle.com >> >> > From: David Kastrup >> > Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 20:39:22 +0200 >> > Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, >> > schwab@linux-m68k.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, >> > kaushal.modi@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, drew.adams@oracle.com >> > >> > >> Reliable translation into selection boxes when feeding emacs -batch from >> > >> a script? >> > > >> > > y-or-n-p already does TRT in that case (no dialog boxes in -batch). >> > >> > Feeding emacs -batch _from_ a script. Meaning the script supplies "yes" >> > and "no". >> >> That already works, AFAIK. > > I meant it already works if the script supplies "y" or "n", not > literally "yes" and "no". If you had the latter in mind, then I see > no reason for a script to supply "yes" when it knows that Emacs needs > "y". How would the script know which user settings for the proposed customizable yes-or-no-p behavior options are active when it is used in a manner reading in the user init file before proceeding? > But we could, of course, extend y-or-n-p to accept "yes" and "no" when > in batch mode. > > IOW, it's a separate issue, whose solution is not necessarily to make > y-or-n-p work as yes-or-no-p. It's not entirely separate since it extends the manners in which Emacs might "legitimately" behave. Customizable options usually don't fall into "if it breaks, you get to keep the pieces" category. -- David Kastrup