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From: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: member returns list
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 2015 01:33:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pp1vjf7v.fsf@debian.uxu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87k2s3b5xw.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com

"Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com>
writes:

> Because each implementation worked on a different
> machine with a different OS (if an OS was available
> at all).

Yeah, but there were many machines at the time of the
"crazy language" C as well, still, there aren't
a plethora of C dialects. (If you don't count all the
epigone languages that borrowed heavily the syntax
of C.)

But C is famous for its portability (which also
proliferated Unix) - perhaps the exception that
confirms the rule, that Lisp is cooler than C?

> But basically, he started GNU emacs and designing
> emacs lisp slightly beforem the CL standardization
> process started, and it was far from obviouos that
> it would succeed (it took ten years!).

OK, but when it did "succeed", why not then?

And, cannot CL be used from Elisp, with explicit
notation (actually naming), but nonetheless?

I can't say I have a problem with this. As for me,
I wouldn't mind one big Lisp which included everything
from all sound Lisp dialects. In time, people would
still use virtually the same stuff. It would be a
de facto standardization. And whenever it wouldn't
happen, oh my, people just had to learn more.

But one Lisp, one Unix, one Linux distro, etc., It
sure has its appeal. In practice I think the
diversity/divergence is a strength. Only personally
I would never do a new language, a new media player,
or a new <something that already exists>. It is just
the way of the street. Different people are different,
in different ways.

-- 
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573




  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-06 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-01 15:50 To `boundp' or not to `boundp'? Alexander Shukaev
2015-09-01 15:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-09-01 15:53   ` Alexander Shukaev
2015-09-01 16:42   ` Drew Adams
2015-09-01 17:13     ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-09-01 18:00       ` Drew Adams
     [not found]   ` <mailman.331.1441125765.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-01 20:20     ` Barry Margolin
2015-09-01 23:37       ` member returns list (was: Re: To `boundp' or not to `boundp'?) Emanuel Berg
2015-09-02  0:10         ` Drew Adams
2015-09-02  0:27           ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-02  0:38             ` Drew Adams
2015-09-02  1:17               ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-02  6:21                 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-02 21:20                   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]               ` <mailman.370.1441156160.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-03  5:17                 ` member returns list Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-04  0:26                   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-02 16:45         ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-09-02 21:47           ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-02 22:09             ` Michael Heerdegen
2015-09-02 22:11             ` Drew Adams
2015-09-02 22:13             ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-09-04  1:03               ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-04  6:50                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-09-05 17:35                   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-05 17:55                     ` Random832
2015-09-05 18:09                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-05 21:04                         ` Random832
2015-09-06  2:57                           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.552.1441475739.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-05 23:39                       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-06  2:46                         ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-09  1:48                           ` Robert Thorpe
2015-09-09  2:44                             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-09  3:19                               ` John Mastro
2015-09-10  0:25                             ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                         ` <mailman.557.1441507097.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-06 21:20                           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-06 23:33                             ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <mailman.598.1441581917.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-06 23:47                               ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-07  1:29                                 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-07  2:25                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-09  1:44                                   ` Robert Thorpe
2015-09-10  0:23                                     ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                     ` <mailman.793.1441844665.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-10  2:01                                       ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-10  2:32                                         ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                           ` <ECCA0E56-A051-4D38-8CBB-6CE9208BB047@openmailbox.org>
2015-09-11  1:32                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-11  1:46                                               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                         ` <mailman.797.1441852386.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-10  4:21                                           ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-10 18:09                                             ` Alex Kost
2015-09-11  1:01                                               ` Random832
2015-09-11  1:28                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-11  2:01                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-11  2:52                                                     ` Random832
     [not found]                                                   ` <mailman.890.1441936900.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-11  2:27                                                     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12  0:10                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-11  2:37                                                   ` Ian Zimmerman
2015-09-11  1:03                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-11  0:57                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-11  5:42                                               ` tomas
2015-09-12  0:18                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-13  8:12                                                   ` tomas
     [not found]                                               ` <mailman.897.1441950163.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-11 23:29                                                 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12  0:20                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                                   ` <mailman.966.1442016910.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-12  2:01                                                     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12  3:26                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-13  7:50                                                       ` tomas
2015-09-12  2:03                                                     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12  2:45                                                       ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-12  3:12                                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-12  3:31                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                                       ` <mailman.972.1442025961.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-12  6:16                                                         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12 23:38                                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-13  8:03                                                             ` tomas
2015-09-14  1:31                                                               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                                           ` <mailman.1016.1442100597.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-13  0:09                                                             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-13  0:24                                                               ` John Mastro
     [not found]                                                               ` <mailman.1019.1442103883.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-13  4:29                                                                 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-16  0:01                                                               ` computer history (was: Re: member returns list) Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                                       ` <mailman.978.1442028310.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-12  6:18                                                         ` member returns list Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12 23:56                                                           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                                           ` <mailman.1018.1442101697.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-13  0:20                                                             ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-14  1:24                                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-12  2:04                                                     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12  3:15                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-12  7:40                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                             ` <mailman.884.1441933051.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-11  2:26                                               ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-12  0:16                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-07  2:38                                 ` Drew Adams
2015-09-07  2:37                             ` Drew Adams
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.502.1441349470.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-04 17:26                   ` Barry Margolin
2015-09-05 17:40                     ` Emanuel Berg
2015-09-02  0:40       ` member (was: Re: To `boundp' or not to `boundp'?) Emanuel Berg
     [not found]       ` <mailman.363.1441150201.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-02 16:25         ` member returns list " Barry Margolin
2015-09-02 21:35           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]           ` <mailman.426.1441229773.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-02 22:56             ` Barry Margolin
2015-09-02 23:23               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]       ` <mailman.368.1441153951.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-03  5:19         ` member Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-09-04  0:24           ` member Emanuel Berg
     [not found]     ` <<barmar-B5D67F.16201001092015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>
2015-09-01 20:42       ` To `boundp' or not to `boundp'? Drew Adams
2015-09-02  2:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-02 15:26   ` Alexander Shukaev
2015-09-02 16:51     ` Michael Heerdegen
     [not found]     ` <mailman.410.1441212753.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-02 20:00       ` Barry Margolin
     [not found] <mailman.719.1441763081.19560.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-09-09 15:03 ` member returns list Barry Margolin
2015-09-09 19:44   ` Ted Zlatanov

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