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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: john@yates-sheets.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Casting as wide a net as possible
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:50:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87poyerpsj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2io46kqe9.fsf@newartisans.com> (John Wiegley's message of "Thu,  10 Dec 2015 12:19:42 -0800")

John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> writes:

>>>>>> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Kind of unconventional as an advertisement though it has its
>> charm. But there is a (rather simple) _read_ syntax for data
>> structures. Just no separate program syntax.
>
> This distinction is meaningless to those we're trying to attract. What
> I meant is "what you type".  It's highly consistent in that regard,
> whatever you choose to call it.

Regarding readability to humans, it's a disadvantage and I don't think
we will gain points by trying to sell it as an advantage.  If we want to
sell an advantage, it is the easy structure-preserving manipulation of
Lisp code that Lisp code can do.  That's the cart, and the simple read
syntax is the horse pulling it.

I mean, I don't sell Modern Greek as "highly consistent vowel
pronunciation" because all of ει, υ, υι, η, ῃ, αι, οι, ι (did I forget
any?) are pronounced the same.

At any rate, I don't think I have anything worthwhile to add that I
didn't say already, and I am not the one writing the advertisement
either.

-- 
David Kastrup



  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-10 20:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-10 16:46 Casting as wide a net as possible (was: First draft of the Emacs website) John Yates
2015-12-10 17:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:56 ` Drew Adams
2015-12-10 19:02   ` Casting as wide a net as possible John Wiegley
2015-12-10 19:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 19:48     ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:01       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:17         ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:19           ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 20:50             ` David Kastrup [this message]
2015-12-11  7:09       ` Richard Stallman
2015-12-10 19:54     ` covici
2015-12-10 21:21     ` Marcin Borkowski
2015-12-14 13:05     ` Adrian.B.Robert
2015-12-14 16:21       ` raman
2015-12-14 18:21         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-11  7:08 ` Casting as wide a net as possible (was: First draft of the Emacs website) Richard Stallman
2015-12-11 16:14   ` Casting as wide a net as possible raman
2015-12-14 14:41 ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-12-14 15:01   ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-14 17:20     ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-12-14 17:59       ` Random832
2015-12-14 18:19         ` Yuri Khan
2015-12-15 18:12           ` Filipp Gunbin
2015-12-15 18:54             ` Random832
2015-12-15 19:03               ` Random832
     [not found] <<CAJnXXogJywM4xRM9OEF1RKEwOib_G_JJvj=YThhsUwFn6gHviQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <<fa45f69a-b8df-46f8-8fda-4735dc34e4dc@default>
     [not found]   ` <<m2d1uenn4h.fsf@newartisans.com>
     [not found]     ` <<83a8pi9l6o.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-12-10 19:15       ` Drew Adams

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