From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: reftex.el autoloads Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 17:08:20 +0000 Message-ID: <87poycvrp7.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <87h9jqo9a5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83wpsm9skk.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4d22c7f.fsf@russet.org.uk> <831tata1mg.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1udxaky.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83mvth6jsa.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1449853732 26843 80.91.229.3 (11 Dec 2015 17:08:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 17:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 11 18:08:45 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a7RBU-0008RO-2D for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 18:08:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48737 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7RBS-0007gb-Vj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:08:42 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44893) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7RBK-0007dv-OQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:08:40 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7RBG-0006Sc-Lw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:08:34 -0500 Original-Received: from cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.22]:33747) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a7RB7-0006M6-GL; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 12:08:21 -0500 Original-Received: from smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk ([10.8.233.129] helo=smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk) by cheviot22.ncl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1a7RB7-0007rz-D1; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 17:08:21 +0000 Original-Received: from jangai.ncl.ac.uk ([10.66.67.223] helo=localhost) by smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1a7RB6-00030w-Tz; Fri, 11 Dec 2015 17:08:20 +0000 In-Reply-To: <83mvth6jsa.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 11 Dec 2015 18:18:29 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 128.240.234.22 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:196128 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) >> Cc: Glenn Morris , >> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 15:35:09 +0000 >> >> ;; MD5 checksums are much better because they do not >> ;; change unless the file changes (so they'll be >> ;; equal on two different systems and will change >> ;; less often than time-stamps, thus leading to fewer >> ;; unneeded changes causing spurious conflicts), but >> ;; using time-stamps is a very useful optimization, >> ;; so we use time-stamps for the main autoloads file >> ;; (loaddefs.el) where we have special ways to >> ;; circumvent the "random change problem", and MD5 >> ;; checksum in secondary autoload files where we do >> ;; not need the time-stamp optimization because it is >> ;; already provided by the primary autoloads file. >> >> So, it's a checksum (not a git commit which was my first thought) of the >> file contents (except in loaddefs.el when it's a timestamp). So it will >> update whenever reftex-auc changes whether the autoloads need to change >> or not. > > Yes. I'll chase this up and see if I can fix the issue for reftex. If that works, I see whether I can remove the others also. Thanks for the advise. Phil