From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: a.s@realize.ch, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Asynchronous DNS
Date: Tue, 09 Feb 2016 11:47:01 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pow6iube.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83zivboyx5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 08 Feb 2016 20:11:02 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> I don't think we should punish users of those packages and their
> developers by breaking their code. If they didn't get their act
> together, their code will not enjoy the advantages of asynchronicity,
> but it should still work, IMO. Teaching by punishment rarely works,
> IME, certainly not in a community such as this one.
I don't think it's punishment to signal an error if you're doing
something that's almost certainly erroneous. As an example where people
are bitten by overly permissive functions, see the long discussion on
whether assoc should signal errors just like member does (or was it the
other way around?).
Quite the reverse: Pretending that there's not a problem here often
sends the developer down a rabbit hole trying to figure out why this
thing doesn't quite work as it should.
Do you think that
(process-send-string (make-network-process ... :nowait t) "foo")
shouldn't signal an error? It currently does. I'm not sure that's the
right decision, but I think I'm leaning towards thinking that that's
more helpful than blocking and pretending nothing's wrong...
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
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2016-01-23 13:50 Asynchronous DNS Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-23 14:56 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-01-24 21:17 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-25 8:58 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-01-25 15:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-25 17:15 ` Elias Mårtenson
2016-01-25 17:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-23 21:42 ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-24 13:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-24 14:01 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-24 14:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-24 19:58 ` Paul Eggert
2016-01-24 4:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-24 13:56 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-24 17:16 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-25 2:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-01-26 19:48 ` John Wiegley
2016-01-26 22:05 ` Florian Weimer
2016-01-30 0:11 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-30 2:39 ` Alex Dunn
2016-01-30 2:58 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-30 4:11 ` Alex Dunn
2016-01-30 4:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-01 3:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-30 7:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30 7:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-30 8:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-01-30 22:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-31 6:12 ` Ken Raeburn
2016-02-01 2:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-01-31 14:03 ` Andy Moreton
2016-02-01 2:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-01 2:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-01 18:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-02 1:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02 3:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-02 3:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02 13:25 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-02 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-02 17:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-02 16:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-03 0:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-03 15:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04 2:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-04 8:18 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-04 8:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-04 10:13 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-05 2:08 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-05 7:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 7:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-13 23:47 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-14 2:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-14 11:19 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-14 16:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-16 21:37 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-20 1:28 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20 17:55 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-20 20:18 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-20 20:33 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-21 10:29 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-26 23:54 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-02-27 3:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-27 9:22 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-28 4:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-28 9:44 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-29 2:59 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-29 3:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-29 8:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-20 19:31 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-20 19:57 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-21 2:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-21 3:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-21 18:55 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-21 20:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22 2:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22 3:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-22 4:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22 5:45 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-22 2:07 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24 6:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24 6:29 ` Paul Eggert
2016-02-24 6:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-24 8:27 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-21 19:35 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-22 2:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-20 10:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-16 2:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-05 9:37 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-04 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 2:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-05 7:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-03 2:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02 6:41 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-02 7:06 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02 7:49 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-02 21:27 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-03 0:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-03 10:22 ` Yuri Khan
2016-02-04 0:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-01 11:58 ` Andy Moreton
2016-02-01 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-01 22:18 ` Andy Moreton
2016-02-02 1:54 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02 2:05 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2016-02-02 2:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-02 3:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-03 0:50 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-03 2:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-03 15:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-04 2:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-04 16:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 2:32 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-05 7:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-05 7:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-06 7:49 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-06 8:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 0:34 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-07 1:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-07 11:41 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-07 19:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 20:24 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08 1:55 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08 3:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08 7:40 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08 7:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08 8:10 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-09 0:37 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09 9:02 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-09 13:46 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09 17:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 20:43 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-09 20:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 23:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-10 10:39 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-12 2:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-12 10:12 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-13 4:04 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-13 10:16 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-14 2:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-14 5:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-14 7:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-14 13:56 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-02-15 0:19 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15 4:22 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-14 16:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-15 0:14 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15 3:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-15 4:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15 0:02 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15 4:39 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15 6:14 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15 6:25 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15 10:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-15 12:01 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-15 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-16 2:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-15 10:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-15 11:06 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15 13:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-15 15:04 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15 16:40 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-16 2:13 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-16 6:48 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-15 18:13 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-12 10:35 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-12 11:37 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08 18:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-09 0:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2016-02-09 16:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 10:43 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-08 11:55 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08 12:55 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-08 14:25 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08 14:31 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-02-09 0:40 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-09 9:15 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-09 9:35 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-07 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 17:45 ` Alain Schneble
2016-02-08 2:03 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08 15:56 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-08 20:30 ` Rasmus
2016-02-09 0:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08 18:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 1:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-07 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-08 2:05 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2016-02-08 18:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-02-07 17:27 ` John Wiegley
2016-02-08 1:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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