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From: Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com>
To: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Configuring fontsets with `unicode-fonts` [Was: Re: Should minibuffer prompt be made intangible by default?]
Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2016 22:30:39 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pou8s0ww.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83egaos3lq.fsf@gnu.org>


Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
 
>> > Installing fonts doesn't necessarily resolve the fontset 
>> > configuration problems, especially since no package can know 
>> > what other fonts are available on the end-user system.
>> 
>> Sorry, i'm not sure you understand what the `unicode-fonts` 
>> package does?
>
> I've read the code, but that doesn't necessarily mean I didn't 
> miss anything, of course.
>
> However, I did read README.md as well, and upon re-reading now 
> the text you posted, I find nothing in it that would contradict 
> what I said.

You wrote "Installing fonts doesn't ...", and didn't write 
something like "Installing fonts and then configuring them using 
that package doesn't .... "Since `unicode-fonts` doesn't actually 
install fonts, i think it wasn't entirely unreasonable of me to 
assume that you thought that the package merely installed fonts.

> My point is that, once you get to the 3rd item, no external 
> package can be the correct answer; instead, you need to teach 
> the user to configure his/her fontset according to his/her 
> preferences.  In particular, the fontset setup should be based 
> not only on Unicode blocks, but also on the capabilities of the 
> fonts present in the original system configuration, and the 
> user's preferences for using particular font(s) for displaying 
> particular ranges of characters.

Sure. On my system, `unicode-fonts` actually decided to use glyphs 
from the "Linux Biolinum" family for displaying Hebrew, which i 
found basically illegible. So my setup manually prioritises Ezra 
SIL:

    (setcdr (assoc "Hebrew" unicode-fonts-block-font-mapping) 
            '(("Ezra SIL" "Ezra SIL SR" "Arial Hebrew" "Raanana" 
            "New Peninim MT" "Aharoni" "David" "FrankRuehl" 
            "Gisha" "Levenim MT" "Narkisim" "Rod" "Cardo" "Courier 
            New" "Adobe Hebrew" "Code2000" "Aramaic Imperial Yeb" 
            "Microsoft Sans Serif" "Tahoma" "Lucida Sans Unicode" 
            "Arial Unicode MS" "Arial" "Quivira" "Everson 
            Mono:weight=boeld" "ALPHABETUM Unicode"))) 

At any rate, i've clearly misunderstood the problem - sorry! - so 
i'll bow out now.


Alexis.



  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-02 11:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-30 16:46 Should minibuffer prompt be made intangible by default? (Was debbugs 21874: 25.0.50; point-entered no longer works) Kaushal Modi
2016-03-31 12:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-31 14:58   ` Kaushal Modi
2016-03-31 16:46   ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-03-31 21:37     ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-31 22:04       ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-04-01  1:40         ` Configuring fontsets with `unicode-fonts` [Was: Re: Should minibuffer prompt be made intangible by default?] Alexis
2016-04-01  7:27           ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-01 10:00             ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-04-01 10:06               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-02  8:57             ` Alexis
2016-04-02 10:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-02 11:30                 ` Alexis [this message]
2016-04-01 10:00           ` Clément Pit--Claudel
2016-04-02 11:31             ` Alexis

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