From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3566: 23.0.94; explain why not to use group defined by define-minor-mode Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:04:19 +0200 Message-ID: <87potavmws.fsf@gnus.org> References: <4276C1AF57E24DE89998752CA7F77EE1@us.oracle.com> <87twimvn0a.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1461787526 11267 80.91.229.3 (27 Apr 2016 20:05:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 20:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3566@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 27 22:05:15 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1avVhx-0003Aq-LY for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:05:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45186 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avVhw-0001XF-Vk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:05:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53076) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avVhr-0001PC-7N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:05:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avVhm-00024q-3s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:05:07 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:38316) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1avVhm-00024h-0S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:05:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avVhl-0001gd-QL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:05:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 20:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 3566 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3566-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B3566.14617874706421 (code B ref 3566); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 20:05:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3566) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2016 20:04:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50650 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avVhG-0001fU-9V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:04:30 -0400 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:48511) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avVhA-0001fI-J3 for 3566@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 16:04:28 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avVh6-0002YF-5Z; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:04:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87twimvn0a.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 27 Apr 2016 22:02:13 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:116972 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > :group GROUP Custom group name to use in all generated `defcustom' forms. > Defaults to MODE without the possible trailing \"-mode\". > - (This default may not be a valid customization group defined > - with `defgroup'. Make sure it is.) > + Don't use this default group name unless you have written a > + `defgroup' to define that group properly. > > The previous version may have been clearer? I think what it's trying to > say is that if you have a :group, then you should make sure to add a > defgroup to that symbol. Actually, I think it's clear enough as it is without spelling out the rationale behind this. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no