From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: prevent scroll-lock-mode from scrolling? Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 16:32:45 +0200 Organization: my virtual residence Message-ID: <87porcj5gy.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> References: <871t3waaa8.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <83eg7wcnwj.fsf@gnu.org> <8760t7l8cg.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <834m8qc2nb.fsf@gnu.org> <87mvmgpwf9.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <20160620083344.GC18825@tuxteam.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1466436898 22496 80.91.229.3 (20 Jun 2016 15:34:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:34:58 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 20 17:34:52 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bF1Du-0001no-U2 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:34:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44394 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bF1Du-0004Kb-2H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:34:50 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42890) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bF14X-0002Pf-I5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:25:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bF14Q-00077f-EG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:25:08 -0400 Original-Received: from acheron.yagibdah.de ([185.55.75.245]:51760) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bF14Q-00077O-7q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:25:02 -0400 Original-Received: from heimdali.yagibdah.de ([192.168.3.20]) by acheron.yagibdah.de with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1bF14L-0000pF-9s for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:24:58 +0200 Original-Received: from lee by heimdali.yagibdah.de with local (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bF14L-0001Zd-5P for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2016 17:24:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20160620083344.GC18825@tuxteam.de> (tomas@tuxteam.de's message of "Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:33:44 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 185.55.75.245 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:110532 Archived-At: writes: > On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 01:54:02AM +0200, lee wrote: >> Eli Zaretskii writes: > [...] > >> The position of the cursor /within the buffer/ is irrelevant for where >> it is /on the screen/. It is relevant to me where the cursor is /on the >> screen/ and /which buffer contents/ are around this screen position >> (because I want to see them). It is pretty much irrelevant at which >> position /within the buffer/ the contents I want to see are. I need >> them displayed on the screen in a desirable way, and when programming, >> the order and content of the lines I'm looking at are most of the time >> much more important than it is where within the buffer they are. (It >> doesn't matter whether a function 'foo' is at line 500 or at line 5000 >> as long as it is declared before being used (which isn't required, but >> it is what I do.)) > > The only sense I can make of that is: you don't want point to move > relative to the window *and* you don't want window to move relative > to buffer. > > I know you can't mean that. At least it doesn't make sense to me, > because it would inhibit any movement. So I must be misundertanding > you. So you get the idea: I want the buffer contents to move relative to the window and relative to the cursor without the cursor and without the window moving. Suppose the window is the universe; the universe doesn't move. -- GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit) of 2016-03-18 on heimdali