From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: debbugs tracker builds character Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:25:33 -0400 Message-ID: <87poq8ngs2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <87twg2g86g.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83eg76n5h5.fsf@gnu.org> <87y45eeoor.fsf@lifelogs.com> <577D42BB.1020500@cs.ucla.edu> <87oa694rfw.fsf@russet.org.uk> <837fcxlbay.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1d2wg5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83eg75jk5h.fsf@gnu.org> <87lh1cb6p0.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87oa5sa176.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <874m7kmkcm.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1469050037 1284 80.91.229.3 (20 Jul 2016 21:27:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 21:27:17 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 20 23:27:08 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bPz1I-0004mw-Eh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 23:27:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37177 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPz1H-0003KQ-MZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:27:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45373) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPyzz-0002ub-9u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:25:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPyzt-0005gq-Dw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:25:46 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:43400) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPyzt-0005gV-6Z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:25:41 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bPyzr-00040S-U0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 23:25:40 +0200 Original-Received: from otwaon234vw-lp140-05-1176444371.dsl.bell.ca ([70.31.29.211]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 23:25:39 +0200 Original-Received: from eric by otwaon234vw-lp140-05-1176444371.dsl.bell.ca with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 23:25:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: otwaon234vw-lp140-05-1176444371.dsl.bell.ca User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:CgsnxLMDh7ocdFA2piKUL8aVduY= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205925 Archived-At: Michael Albinus writes: > Ted Zlatanov writes: > >> TZ> Please consider me strongly in favor of a better code review system and >> TZ> a better bug tracker. Ideally they would be one and the same. >> >> I wish I knew why people find the current bug tracker acceptable. It >> reminds me of the old ftpmail/DEC gatekeeper where you sent e-mails >> requesting files: > > One of the requirements for a bug tracker for Emacs was, that it must be > possible to control everything via email. That's one of the reasons > debbugs was chosen. A suggestion from a part-time package maintainer: make `report-emacs-bug' prompt for a package, and offer the results of `featurep' as completion. If the user picks a package that only exists in ELPA, email the package maintainer with the bug report. I have no opinion about bug-tracking backends, the only reason I start packages off in github is that the issue tracker is mature. But I would prefer to be emailed via the debbugs interface. In fact, I would prefer to add a debbugs server to Gnus, which I would ignore 99% of the time, except when a bug came down that was reported against one of my packages. How far away from that are we?