bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[basilio]

M-x ispell-change-dictionary RET ukrainian [no match]

In fact Ukrainian dictionary is installed in the system:

~ % aspell dump dicts                       
en
en-variant_0
en-variant_1
en-variant_2
en-w_accents
en-wo_accents
en_AU
en_AU-variant_0
en_AU-variant_1
en_AU-w_accents
en_AU-wo_accents
en_CA
en_CA-variant_0
en_CA-variant_1
en_CA-w_accents
en_CA-wo_accents
en_GB
en_GB-ise
en_GB-ise-w_accents
en_GB-ise-wo_accents
en_GB-ize
en_GB-ize-w_accents
en_GB-ize-wo_accents
en_GB-variant_0
en_GB-variant_1
en_GB-w_accents
en_GB-wo_accents
en_US
en_US-variant_0
en_US-variant_1
en_US-w_accents
en_US-wo_accents
ru
ru-ye
ru-yeyo
ru-yo
uk
~ %                                         

So I should be able to use Ukrainian. And it worked before the last
update.




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bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: basilio@gmx.com
> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 16:36:01 +0200
> 
> 
> M-x ispell-change-dictionary RET ukrainian [no match]

What about "M-x ispell-change-dictionary RET uk RET" -- does that work?

If not what does Emacs display if you type "?" (question mark) without
the quotes after "M-x ispell-change-dictionary RET"?  Please show the
entire list of dictionaries Emacs pops up when you type "?".

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Basilio]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: basilio@gmx.com
>> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 16:36:01 +0200
>> 
>> 
>> M-x ispell-change-dictionary RET ukrainian [no match]
>
> What about "M-x ispell-change-dictionary RET uk RET" -- does that work?
No, that does not work either.
> If not what does Emacs display if you type "?" (question mark) without
> the quotes after "M-x ispell-change-dictionary RET"?  Please show the
> entire list of dictionaries Emacs pops up when you type "?".

Click on a completion to select it.
In this buffer, type RET to select the completion near point.

Possible completions are:
american 	brasileiro 	british 	castellano
castellano8 	czech 	dansk 	default
deutsch 	deutsch8 	english 	esperanto
esperanto-tex 	finnish 	francais 	francais-tex
francais7 	german 	german8 	hebrew
italiano 	nederlands 	nederlands8 	norsk
norsk7-tex 	polish 	portugues 	russian
russianw 	slovak 	slovenian 	svenska

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: basilio@gmx.com
> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 16:36:01 +0200
> 
> 
> M-x ispell-change-dictionary RET ukrainian [no match]
> 
> In fact Ukrainian dictionary is installed in the system:
> 
> ~ % aspell dump dicts                       
> en
> en-variant_0
> en-variant_1
> en-variant_2
> en-w_accents
> en-wo_accents
> en_AU
> en_AU-variant_0
> en_AU-variant_1
> en_AU-w_accents
> en_AU-wo_accents
> en_CA
> en_CA-variant_0
> en_CA-variant_1
> en_CA-w_accents
> en_CA-wo_accents
> en_GB
> en_GB-ise
> en_GB-ise-w_accents
> en_GB-ise-wo_accents
> en_GB-ize
> en_GB-ize-w_accents
> en_GB-ize-wo_accents
> en_GB-variant_0
> en_GB-variant_1
> en_GB-w_accents
> en_GB-wo_accents
> en_US
> en_US-variant_0
> en_US-variant_1
> en_US-w_accents
> en_US-wo_accents
> ru
> ru-ye
> ru-yeyo
> ru-yo
> uk
> ~ %                                         

What do these two commands display:

 ~ % aspell config dict-dir
 ~ % aspell config data-dir

And also in what directory do you have the above dictionaries shown by
"aspell dump dicts"?  What dictionary files you actually have there?
E.g., do you have uk.dat for the Ukrainian dictionary?

And what is the value of ispell-aspell-dictionary-alist after you load
Ispell?  (To find the value, type M-:, then the name of the variable,
then RET.)

Finally, what is the Aspell version?  What does "aspell -vv" produce?

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Basilio]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>
> What do these two commands display:
>
>  ~ % aspell config dict-dir
>  ~ % aspell config data-dir
~ % aspell config dict-dir
/usr/lib64/aspell-0.60
~ % aspell config data-dir
/usr/lib64/aspell-0.60

> And also in what directory do you have the above dictionaries shown by
> "aspell dump dicts"?  What dictionary files you actually have there?
> E.g., do you have uk.dat for the Ukrainian dictionary?
~ % locate uk.dat                       
/usr/lib64/aspell-0.60/uk.dat                                      


> And what is the value of ispell-aspell-dictionary-alist after you load
> Ispell?  (To find the value, type M-:, then the name of the variable,
> then RET.)
nil
> Finally, what is the Aspell version?  What does "aspell -vv" produce?
~ % aspell -vv                         
@(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.60.7-
rc1)                                                              

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Basilio <basilio@gmx.com>
> Cc: 29801@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 21:35:11 +0200
> 
> > Finally, what is the Aspell version?  What does "aspell -vv" produce?
> ~ % aspell -vv                         
> @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.60.7-rc1)

That's the problem, I think: that "-rc1" at the end of the version
string.  Emacs looks for a version string with this regexp:

 (search-forward-regexp "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9\\.-]+\\)?)" nil t)

which doesn't match 0.60.7-rc1.

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Basilio]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Basilio <basilio@gmx.com>
>> Cc: 29801@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 21:35:11 +0200
>> 
>> > Finally, what is the Aspell version?  What does "aspell -vv" produce?
>> ~ % aspell -vv                         
>> @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.60.7-rc1)
>
> That's the problem, I think: that "-rc1" at the end of the version
> string.  Emacs looks for a version string with this regexp:
>
>  (search-forward-regexp "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9\\.-]+\\)?)" nil t)
>
> which doesn't match 0.60.7-rc1.

Thanks a lot!

Is there an easy way to solve it on my level and chances that there will be some
solution developed upstream? I'm not very proficient in Lisp unfortunately.

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Tomas Nordin]

Basilio <basilio@gmx.com> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> From: Basilio <basilio@gmx.com>
>>> Cc: 29801@debbugs.gnu.org
>>> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 21:35:11 +0200
>>> 
>>> > Finally, what is the Aspell version?  What does "aspell -vv" produce?
>>> ~ % aspell -vv                         
>>> @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.60.7-rc1)
>>
>> That's the problem, I think: that "-rc1" at the end of the version
>> string.  Emacs looks for a version string with this regexp:
>>
>>  (search-forward-regexp "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9\\.-]+\\)?)" nil t)
>>
>> which doesn't match 0.60.7-rc1.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Is there an easy way to solve it on my level and chances that there will be some
> solution developed upstream? I'm not very proficient in Lisp unfortunately.

Sorry for just jumping in here out of the blue, but an ugly hack could
be to just add a ? in the end of the expression after the last ) in
ispell.el.

Find the code

(search-forward-regexp "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9\\.-]+\\)?)" nil t)

in ispell.el and add ? to the regexp string like this:

    "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9\\.-]+\\)?)?"

This makes it not require the ending paren and should (partly) match

     (but really Aspell 0.60.7-rc1)

The group match becomes 0.60.7-

(version<= "0.60" "0.60.7-")
(ispell-check-minver "0.6" "0.60.7-")

those both evaled to t without making problems for me.

If this is not too stupid to suggest (as a temporary home-fix) then
maybe someone could suggest a proper way of installing the hack.

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Basilio <basilio@gmx.com>
> Cc: 29801@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 23:13:24 +0200
> 
> >> ~ % aspell -vv                         
> >> @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.60.7-rc1)
> >
> > That's the problem, I think: that "-rc1" at the end of the version
> > string.  Emacs looks for a version string with this regexp:
> >
> >  (search-forward-regexp "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9\\.-]+\\)?)" nil t)
> >
> > which doesn't match 0.60.7-rc1.

This is now fixed in the emacs-26 branch.

> Is there an easy way to solve it on my level and chances that there will be some
> solution developed upstream? I'm not very proficient in Lisp unfortunately.

Change this regexp in ispell.el:

  "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9\\.-]+\\)?)"

into this:

  "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9.]+\\([-._+ ]?[a-zA-Z0-9]+\\)?\\)?)"

Then byte-compile ispell.el to produce a modified ispell.elc, restart
Emacs if it's running, and you should be all set.

I'd be interested to know whether this fix makes the problem go away
for you.

Thanks.

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Glenn Morris]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

> Change this regexp in ispell.el:
>
>   "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9\\.-]+\\)?)"
>
> into this:
>
>   "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9.]+\\([-._+ ]?[a-zA-Z0-9]+\\)?\\)?)"

I see that the only thing ispell.el uses the numeric version for is to
test if it is >= 0.60. aspell 0.60 was released in 2004. Even RHEL6 has
aspell 0.60.6. So IMO ispell.el can discard the version checking
entirely, and just look for "really Aspell".

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: Basilio <basilio@gmx.com>,  29801@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 13:04:08 -0500
> 
> >   "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9.]+\\([-._+ ]?[a-zA-Z0-9]+\\)?\\)?)"
> 
> I see that the only thing ispell.el uses the numeric version for is to
> test if it is >= 0.60. aspell 0.60 was released in 2004. Even RHEL6 has
> aspell 0.60.6. So IMO ispell.el can discard the version checking
> entirely, and just look for "really Aspell".

Why would we want to make a change that gains us nothing at all, and
at "best" breaks old systems?

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Glenn Morris]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> >   "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9.]+\\([-._+ ]?[a-zA-Z0-9]+\\)?\\)?)"
>> 
>> I see that the only thing ispell.el uses the numeric version for is to
>> test if it is >= 0.60. aspell 0.60 was released in 2004. Even RHEL6 has
>> aspell 0.60.6. So IMO ispell.el can discard the version checking
>> entirely, and just look for "really Aspell".
>
> Why would we want to make a change that gains us nothing at all, and
> at "best" breaks old systems?

Because it future-proofs against a class of similar problems, eg

 (but really Aspell 0.80~beta1)
 (but really Aspell 0.90 "awesome code name")

and because the old systems using a 13+ year-old aspell don't exist.

So why do a fragile check for information that isn't needed.

The amount of legacy crap in Emacs, and the refusal to relinquish it,
is frustrating.

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: basilio@gmx.com,  29801@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:04:03 -0500
> 
> The amount of legacy crap in Emacs, and the refusal to relinquish it,
> is frustrating.

Some day, when I'm old and retired, I will come up with statistics of
how many times the attempt to "relinquish legacy crap" broke something
in Emacs.  I'm afraid the result will be "too much".

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Glenn Morris]

So will you revert 9e6618b before the next release, or will my
suggestion be acceptable in two years when 2007 is as distant as 2004
was at the time of that change?

BTW, ispell 3.1.12, which ispell.el also tests for, was released in 1994.

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: basilio@gmx.com,  29801@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 18:51:12 -0500
> 
> So will you revert 9e6618b before the next release, or will my
> suggestion be acceptable in two years when 2007 is as distant as 2004
> was at the time of that change?

I may not be around here by then, so you most probably are asking the
wrong person.

And of course, feel free to make any changes in that area on the
master branch.  The policy in that matter hasn't changed.

Thanks.

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Glenn Morris]

Glenn Morris wrote:

> Because it future-proofs against a class of similar problems, eg
>
>  (but really Aspell 0.80~beta1)
>  (but really Aspell 0.90 "awesome code name")

Obviously I should let this go, but I'd appreciate it if you addressed
this point that I made.

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
> Cc: 29801@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 18:55:17 -0500
> 
> Glenn Morris wrote:
> 
> > Because it future-proofs against a class of similar problems, eg
> >
> >  (but really Aspell 0.80~beta1)
> >  (but really Aspell 0.90 "awesome code name")
> 
> Obviously I should let this go

Yes, please do, and thanks.

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Basilio]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Basilio <basilio@gmx.com>
>> Cc: 29801@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 23:13:24 +0200
>> 
>> >> ~ % aspell -vv                         
>> >> @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.60.7-rc1)
>> >
>> > That's the problem, I think: that "-rc1" at the end of the version
>> > string.  Emacs looks for a version string with this regexp:
>> >
>> >  (search-forward-regexp "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9\\.-]+\\)?)" nil t)
>> >
>> > which doesn't match 0.60.7-rc1.
>
> This is now fixed in the emacs-26 branch.
>
>> Is there an easy way to solve it on my level and chances that there will be some
>> solution developed upstream? I'm not very proficient in Lisp unfortunately.
>
> Change this regexp in ispell.el:
>
>   "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9\\.-]+\\)?)"
>
> into this:
>
>   "(but really Aspell \\([0-9]+\\.[0-9.]+\\([-._+ ]?[a-zA-Z0-9]+\\)?\\)?)"
>
> Then byte-compile ispell.el to produce a modified ispell.elc, restart
> Emacs if it's running, and you should be all set.
>
> I'd be interested to know whether this fix makes the problem go away
> for you.
>
> Thanks.

Sorry, was offline.

Now I can choose both "uk" and "ukrainian" dictionaries (which in fact
is the same, but that's not a problem for me anyway). And many languages
that are not really installed also remain. But that is not a problem for
me either. Ukrainian spell checking and flyspell mode now work again.

Many thanks! And my best regards!

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Glenn Morris]

Basilio wrote:

> And many languages that are not really installed also remain.

https://debbugs.gnu.org/24050

bug#29801: 25.3; ispell cannot detect installed dictionaries

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Basilio <basilio@gmx.com>
> Cc: Basilio <basilio@gmx.com>,  29801@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:56:34 +0200
> 
> Now I can choose both "uk" and "ukrainian" dictionaries (which in fact
> is the same, but that's not a problem for me anyway). And many languages
> that are not really installed also remain. But that is not a problem for
> me either. Ukrainian spell checking and flyspell mode now work again.
> 
> Many thanks! And my best regards!

Thanks for testing.