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From: Alex Gramiak <agrambot@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Some new vector procedures (vector-{memq, apply, to-string, ...})
Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 14:34:09 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pnpf5c8u.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvy344t3hz.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 21 Apr 2019 00:05:25 -0400")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> I don't see any replacement for vector-apply, but I admit that the worth
>> of that one might not be worth the change at this point.
>
> I'm not sure I like vector-apply, but I am interested in doing something
> along these lines for cl-generic: the use of wrappers of the form
>
>     (lambda (x &rest args) ... (apply f x args))
>
> proves to be too costly in some cases (e.g. cl-print).  But the main issue
> seems to be the allocation of a new list for `args`, so `vector-apply`
> doesn't really help here.

I'm not sure how one would avoid the allocation lambda does without a
new special form (or byte compiler optimization that checks that you
only give args to apply), but perhaps I'm overlooking something.

There could also be a &rest-vector, but that's likely going too far.

>> For vector-memq, the Lisp implementations almost disallow it from being
>> used over memq/lists.
>
> I your `vector-memq` significantly faster than `memq`?

Not hugely; about 15-25% when vector-memq is made into a 2-byte bytecode
(as in my other thread) for a 5 element collection, and about 50% on a
50-element collection.

> My impression is that for small enough "sets", even if a bit faster,
> `vector-memq` wouldn't bring much benefit, and for larger sets if
> performance is an issue you'd likely prefer using a completely different
> structure such as a hash-table.

Right, I'm not under the impression that it would be a monumental
difference (that's why I called it a stupid itch :). Still, I think
there's a middle ground between lists and hash tables that vectors would
fit into nicely enough.



  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-21 20:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-19 20:49 [RFC] Some new vector procedures (vector-{memq, apply, to-string, ...}) Alex Gramiak
2019-04-20  7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-20 16:50   ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-20 17:16     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-20 18:18       ` Alex Gramiak
2019-04-20 19:11         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-20 19:54           ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-04-20 20:09             ` Óscar Fuentes
2019-04-20 22:54           ` Paul Eggert
2019-04-21  3:01             ` Using SMALL_LIST_LEN_MAX for memq and list_length (was: [RFC] Some new vector procedures (vector-{memq, apply, to-string, ...})) Alex Gramiak
2019-04-21  1:52           ` [RFC] Some new vector procedures (vector-{memq, apply, to-string, ...}) Alex Gramiak
2019-04-21  5:50             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-04-21  4:05     ` Stefan Monnier
2019-04-21 20:34       ` Alex Gramiak [this message]
2019-04-21 21:01         ` Stefan Monnier

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