From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Thorpe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2019 21:12:26 +0100 Message-ID: <87pnnn4z11.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> References: <86tvd1s19u.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="174605"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 08 22:13:08 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hZhi8-000jJu-Jb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 22:13:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60354 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hZhi7-0004Es-LR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 16:13:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48750) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hZhhe-0004EJ-CT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 16:12:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hZhhd-00072P-Dr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 16:12:38 -0400 Original-Received: from outbound-smtp02.blacknight.com ([81.17.249.8]:45778) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hZhhb-0006fB-Le for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2019 16:12:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.blacknight.com (pemlinmail06.blacknight.ie [81.17.255.152]) by outbound-smtp02.blacknight.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A91C598B86 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2019 20:12:27 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: (qmail 27522 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2019 20:12:27 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO RTLaptop) (rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com@[51.37.114.58]) by 81.17.254.9 with ESMTPSA (AES128-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 8 Jun 2019 20:12:27 -0000 In-Reply-To: <86tvd1s19u.fsf@zoho.eu> (message from Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs on Fri, 07 Jun 2019 20:23:09 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 81.17.249.8 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120845 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs writes: > Robert Thorpe wrote: > >> I think is mainly because of the way you use >> this mailing list. >> >> You seem to think of it as something more >> than a help mailing list. I think lots of >> other people think of it strictly as >> a help list. >> >> I expect that some of your mails would work >> better elsewhere. Perhaps on a blog or >> on Reddit. > > Had I known there was no computer culture > whatsoever I would never have done any of this > to begin with. > > Taking pride in elitist one-dimensionalness and > the prevailing notion that computer people > should themselves be and act as computers - > it is _in-human_. > > Or wait... maybe it isn't elitism or even > a notion... maybe people really *are* like > that? Now had I known _that_, not only would > I never have done any of this, I would have > turned and run as fast as I possibly could, > without ever looking back! What I'm saying here is about context. I have nothing against computer culture. I think it's fairly interesting, and I sometimes talk about it too. The point is though, it's not what *this list* is about. This list is much more focused on help, as it says in the name. There are other forums that are much more loose. Take Reddit, for example. Lots of your more off-the-wall mails would be appreciated on Emacs Reddit. That's because it's not a forum focused on help. By posting off-the-wall stuff here you're irritating others and also needlessly frustrating yourself. BR, Robert Thorpe