From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19495: 25.0.50; `message` -- optional argument to suppress echo area display Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2019 22:14:17 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87pnlkzxae.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87k1bvmidy.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="140009"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Keith David Bershatsky , 19495@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 04 21:51:15 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1huMX9-000aE1-SB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 21:51:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49360 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1huMX8-0004hP-CD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 15:51:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58002) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1huMX2-0004h1-PQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 15:51:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1huMX1-0004vj-QG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 15:51:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53678) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1huMX1-0004vX-Lg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 15:51:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1huMX1-0006DA-Iq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 15:51:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2019 19:51:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19495 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 19495-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19495.156494823823798 (code B ref 19495); Sun, 04 Aug 2019 19:51:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19495) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2019 19:50:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34256 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1huMWc-0006Bl-2I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 15:50:38 -0400 Original-Received: from bonobo.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.22]:8802) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1huMWa-0006Bd-Ht for 19495@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 04 Aug 2019 15:50:37 -0400 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D80721DED; Sun, 4 Aug 2019 19:50:35 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a13.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-11-214.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.11.214]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A9EAB21D82; Sun, 4 Aug 2019 19:50:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a13.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.17.5); Sun, 04 Aug 2019 19:50:35 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Abiding-Power: 42605eaf6f6101f7_1564948234979_1887617644 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1564948234979:2968271033 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1564948234979 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a13.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a13.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7407FE4A; Sun, 4 Aug 2019 12:50:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=linkov.net; bh=eQMmnF3IB4JwxDSmCgqWdUGQaXw=; b= YWXQ2xgIYERuIfAbyb1n++ClV/tbVwjCNKclvayiOj5A3mg91NbSHF1a3Fl+2drG 8g+bJrS9hUlAupcQawBsdFZAYqxdUVxi02hIzcaYvNTkpy28hsCEbRtKPUENCIwk 6ct4C1hmg8Zso3q0gn3whiCMovvTsa5iCiphE+CpB1Q= Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-103-91.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.103.91]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a13.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6A5137FE69; Sun, 4 Aug 2019 12:50:26 -0700 (PDT) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a13 In-Reply-To: <87k1bvmidy.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 02 Aug 2019 22:17:45 +0200") X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduvddruddthedgudeggecutefuodetggdotefrodftvfcurfhrohhfihhlvgemucggtfgfnhhsuhgsshgtrhhisggvpdfftffgtefojffquffvnecuuegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecusecvtfgvtghiphhivghnthhsucdlqddutddtmdenucfjughrpefhvffuohhfffgjkfgfgggtsehttdertddtredtnecuhfhrohhmpefluhhrihcunfhinhhkohhvuceojhhurhhisehlihhnkhhovhdrnhgvtheqnecukfhppeeluddruddvledruddtfedrledunecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehmrghilhdrjhhurhhtrgdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeeluddruddvledruddtfedrledupdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpefluhhrihcunfhinhhkohhvuceojhhurhhisehlihhnkhhovhdrnhgvtheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhurhhisehlihhnkhhovhdrnhgvthdpnhhrtghpthhtoheplhgrrhhsihesghhnuhhsrdhorhhgnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164590 Archived-At: >> As a feature request, the Emacs team may wish to consider adding an >> optional argument to the `message` function to permit suppression of >> the message being displayed in the echo area. >> >> In my particular use case, there are certain process output strings >> that I prefer having printed to the `*Messages*` buffer -- instead of >> a dedicated process output buffer. > > [...] > >> The following is my workaround: >> >> (defun rsync-process-filter (proc string) >> (let ((inhibit-read-only t)) >> (when (not (or >> (string-match "files...\r" string) >> (string-match "files to consider\n" string))) >> (with-current-buffer (get-buffer-create "*Messages*") >> (goto-char (point-max)) >> (insert string))))) > > (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately have not received > any responses yet.) > > I kinda don't think extending `message' in this way would be ideal. > Currently, `message' is pretty simple to understand, and to change it to > not actually message anything (in some circumstances) would be > confusing. Doing this in the way you've done in the workaround seems > like a better idea. Emacs 25 introduced a new variable 'inhibit-message' to suppress echo area display. > So I'm closing this as a "wontfix". This feature request was dated Jan 2015, and a new feature implemented independently was added on Apr 2015.