From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Damien Cassou Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38378: 26.3.50; [PATCH] Add the hierarchy library Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 13:21:19 +0100 Message-ID: <87pngx3d1c.fsf@cassou.me> References: <871rtv3hit.fsf@cassou.me> <8ccb16d7-34b5-c399-4270-aa7ae84fd9ff@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="243398"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: johnw@newartisans.com, clement.pitclaudel@live.com, joaotavora@gmail.com, monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA To: Dmitry Gutov , 38378@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 09 13:22:20 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ieI3Q-00118O-9e for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 13:22:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39152 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ieI3O-0007CW-Al for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 07:22:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:58335) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ieI3A-0007Bt-2X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 07:22:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ieI38-0002ks-QL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 07:22:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46731) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ieI38-0002km-N7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 07:22:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ieI38-0006dD-IG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 07:22:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Damien Cassou Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2019 12:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38378 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 38378-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38378.157589408625443 (code B ref 38378); Mon, 09 Dec 2019 12:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38378) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2019 12:21:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52704 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ieI2Y-0006cJ-KV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 07:21:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.choca.pics ([62.210.108.126]:58790) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ieI2V-0006cA-T8 for 38378@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2019 07:21:24 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [IPv6:::1]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318AFF094E7; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 13:21:22 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail.choca.pics ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail.choca.pics [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id wivTZqlxR8d4; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 13:21:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [IPv6:::1]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D5D8F094E9; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 13:21:21 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at choca.pics Original-Received: from mail.choca.pics ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail.choca.pics [IPv6:::1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id t1Aqrz5xET5L; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 13:21:21 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from luz4 (unknown [86.215.185.132]) by mail.choca.pics (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D1085F094E7; Mon, 9 Dec 2019 13:21:20 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <8ccb16d7-34b5-c399-4270-aa7ae84fd9ff@yandex.ru> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:173095 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > Eli said the core would benefit from it, but I wonder which existing=20 > features exactly could use it now. > > If none, I think GNU ELPA is the better place for it. And as soon as=20 > someone finds a specific use for it in the core, moving would be trivial. Cl=C3=A9ment Pit-Claudel suggested "the tree displayed by profiler-report." in https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2017-10/msg00675.html. Maybe proced's tree mode? I stated my opinion about this matter in the past (see https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2017-10/msg00686.html): Damien Cassou wrote: > If you think Emacs would benefit from having hierarchy included, > please do include it. My philosophy is more in the opposite direction > (getting rid of as much as possible in the core to facilitate release > and to let package maintainers use the tools they want) To which Eli answered: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > As much as possible, but no more than that, I presume? Then the issue > here is whether this capability should or shouldn't be in core, as > other basics. I think it should. I let you decide. --=20 Damien Cassou "Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing enthusiasm." --Winston Churchill