From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Colin Baxter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cairo now default? Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2020 15:09:49 +0000 Message-ID: <87pnf3vcqq.fsf@yandex.com> References: <87ftfzx509.fsf@yandex.com> <87blqnx1vi.fsf@yandex.com> <877e1bx0kl.fsf@yandex.com> <8736bzwx92.fsf@yandex.com> <87tv4fvdwc.fsf@yandex.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="88010"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Robert Pluim Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 28 16:10:43 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iwSVm-000Mru-Km for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:10:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60376 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iwSVl-0000fZ-PC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 10:10:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59939) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iwSV5-0008Kx-RC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 10:10:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iwSV2-0007av-0T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 10:09:58 -0500 Original-Received: from forward102p.mail.yandex.net ([2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:102]:50375) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iwSV1-0007VQ-Ci for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 10:09:55 -0500 Original-Received: from mxback27j.mail.yandex.net (mxback27j.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1619::227]) by forward102p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 6098E1D40AB9; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 18:09:51 +0300 (MSK) Original-Received: from iva1-bc1861525829.qloud-c.yandex.net (iva1-bc1861525829.qloud-c.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:c0c:a0e:0:640:bc18:6152]) by mxback27j.mail.yandex.net (mxback/Yandex) with ESMTP id 27SNAtBie3-9phSdSSU; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 18:09:51 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1580224191; bh=JkMDz/1YSlKxkQIdItmdsg7lOWG5XEwqYo2Kl4RFb8g=; h=In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From:Cc:Cc:Date:References:Message-ID; b=c0D++dAsXwj/z3O5Zb/mPYWEU3Pyj5XVPZ0f9UTSOZ603p7Ihyh9jmjVFcf308WwD goNqqH1KpVXS5kNgXo8Xi7j5tgjCS/Hy3oudxbO4yTz/Wb7v1F9eX+4X5Hy/r6coTF Eg5obZy6qVi+Ax51A4q3CTAuB5Q3Qqai5dkGgV2Q= Authentication-Results: mxback27j.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Original-Received: by iva1-bc1861525829.qloud-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id ApVGI3y8iU-9oZeGoMj; Tue, 28 Jan 2020 18:09:50 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) X-Face: -P+89ASh_wrs;AUGm`!l[}/o-lyK}5W.gq\fkJ{#d6Gu,hWrZNz::iMm5PJb} __A96]-LUrl)X=uF=V|\3-\9/sXvBs/H In-Reply-To: <87tv4fvdwc.fsf@yandex.com> (Colin Baxter's message of "Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:44:51 +0000") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAA8AAAAPCAYAAAA71pVKAAAABmJLR0QA/wD/AP+gvaeTAAAA aklEQVQokaXSMQoCQRAEwFoDH6Om3od8myDqgeCn/MIFZ5uJhjs7MMEEBU0zLSzY6p9bK+I3DsIS 0rkXqOA17Kr4+g3fidewr+L5t7VNZ8vnEXz6uwqFTSP4OYITjiP4AdXfDqYWXgUM9w9BRfavym8k WAAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:102 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:244705 Archived-At: >>>>> "Colin" =3D=3D Colin Baxter writes: >>>>> Robert Pluim writes: >>>>> On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 13:01:29 +0000, Colin Baxter = said: Colin> I was thinking of a rather more mundane reason. For example, Colin> although Debian 9.11 has the right version of the harfbuzz Colin> dev library, Debian 8.11 doesn't. To me, Debian 8.11 does Colin> seem that old. >> Debian stable is always pretty far behind, no? In any case, >> people who don=CA=BCt have the right HarfBuzz library will just end = up >> continuing to use FLT like before, so nothing changes for them. Colin> But this is not the case, surely. "emacs -q" from ./configure Colin> --without-cairo looks different from "emacs -q" from Colin> ./configure when there are is harfbuzz dev lib. The user Colin> who's always just done ./configure will see something Colin> different. >> PS Your CC is malformed: it has a stray comma in it. Colin> Yes, thanks. I haven't yet traced the reason. I have a serious flat-finger problem today!! What I meant to type is=20 "emacs -q" from ./configure --without-cairo looks different from "emacs -q" from ./configure when there are is NO harfbuzz dev lib. Best wishes,