From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id MFPnEu0A3l67AwAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 09:12:13 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id iNbEDu0A3l4VCQAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 09:12:13 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A0739404CF for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 09:12:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:60384 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jiDpD-00069d-Es for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 05:12:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46668) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jiDon-00068f-El for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 05:11:45 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:44479) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jiDom-000627-Uc; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 05:11:44 -0400 Received: from [2a01:e35:2fe1:f780:14a9:8e5e:f6f:8222] (port=38992 helo=guerry) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1jiDok-0006CO-H1; Mon, 08 Jun 2020 05:11:43 -0400 Received: by guerry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E201A1A6082D; Mon, 8 Jun 2020 11:11:40 +0200 (CEST) From: Bastien To: Mario Frasca Subject: Re: issue tracker? Organization: GNU References: <87ftbw3mvw.fsf@alphaville.usersys.redhat.com> <6ffc8465-fdeb-4981-8303-43f09e26e0c1@www.fastmail.com> <20200519073352.GC7874@tuxteam.de> <08ee796b-d541-69f3-518e-f577d9b29f0b@anche.no> <87imgau9ny.fsf@gnu.org> <71f5fa9a-8f55-6869-151a-209f53f86579@anche.no> <874kruzssr.fsf@gnu.org> <878sh5el37.fsf@gnu.org> <22b69acf-1b79-6257-9a97-6515f3841be4@anche.no> <871rms4oe8.fsf@gnu.org> <87v9k3nrl4.fsf@gnu.org> <8387a4b6-cf55-c284-15a8-44a1ccafa220@anche.no> Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2020 11:11:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8387a4b6-cf55-c284-15a8-44a1ccafa220@anche.no> (Mario Frasca's message of "Sun, 7 Jun 2020 08:50:46 -0500") Message-ID: <87pna9hqgj.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: scn0 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.01 X-TUID: x7UI7y6Jm8MV Hi Mario, > On 07/06/2020 04:38, Bastien wrote: > > anybody can > 'vote-for' a bug, and you keep a counter on voted-for. >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 > It would require people to register on updates.orgmode.org. > I'm not sure the expected benefit is really worth it for now. >=20=20=20=20=20 > why would it?=C2=A0 you already trust email senders on identity and > integrity in all ways, you can also add this one.=C2=A0=20 Yes, indeed. But it would add a bit of complexity as I would need to register the votes somehow.=20=20 I'd rather see if people start using "X-Woof-Bug: confirmed" for bugs before handling "X-Woof-Bug: vote" or something. > a user is an email address.=C2=A0 the benefit, in my eyes, is for you to > have a measure of the opinion of (voiceful) users. Still, a confirmed bug is something that needs to be fixed, and I'd rather have people spend time on confirming bugs than on voting for them. Let's see later on if your idea gets more support. > a maintainer can 'confirm' (that fixing that bug is > desirable).=C2=A0 >=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 > I think it is important that anyone can confirm a bug. >=20=20=20=20=20 > I see differences among -confirming a behaviour, -confirming that a > behaviour is a bug, -asserting that a maintainer would accept a > "correction".=C2=A0 please drop the subject if you don't want me to argue > in favour of something you have already discarded. I don't discard anything, and discussion is always fine. It is just that I don't want to overengineer something that has not proved its efficacity yet. Maybe later. > That said, I would love to organize a hackathon for Org-mode where > people would gather online for one day, exchange ideas, break and fix > things, propose new features, etc. That is, IMHO, the way to recruit > new contributors, on top of simply formally asking "who would like to > be in charge of X, Y and Z?" >=20=20=20=20=20 > I like the `#emacs' irc chatroom on freenode, I discovered it > recently.=C2=A0 the more specific chatroom `#org-mode' is less active but > not less welcoming.=C2=A0 it was there where I got the hint to write here, > and where they told me "no need to subscribe".=C2=A0 or open a new > temporary room, but I hope we stay with IRC, which we can use from > within an emacs buffer. I don't spend time on #org-mode but I've heard this is a nice place, I'm glad some people are welcoming new users/contributors there. Best, --=20 Bastien