From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Support "\n" in icomplete-separator Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:09:59 +0100 Message-ID: <87pn4hjnso.fsf@rub.de> References: <837dqr27zs.fsf@gnu.org> <83361f22ah.fsf@gnu.org> <83sg9fzlto.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1ozz22j.fsf@gnu.org> <83d00izloj.fsf@gnu.org> <83361ezix2.fsf@gnu.org> <83y2j6xy4m.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9e9wgyk.fsf@gnu.org> <83r1oxwehu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37627"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: spacibba@aol.com, andreyk.mad@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, rudalics@gmx.at, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, Gregory Heytings To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 13 16:11:24 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kdajT-0009h6-Lo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:11:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60754 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdajS-0005f3-OD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 10:11:22 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52492) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdaiY-00054u-Ii for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 10:10:26 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:45995) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdaiV-0000jx-M2; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 10:10:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1605280214; bh=TfJPv8CwocPTwnbmv2xNpuK5rJR7c0Ck1y/vi50GgoE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=XfvLP+tWF+gzUd4FAj1aFUjfiHnqNkD0I7g+6KwxMGam0GE1XXKk/xo9x1UCCfNUR W/COsjpGysj0If4N6+C8LqNCBSLEPe4QBzgg3aX1SRcE7i5WzB0Sy/NlayCcUBZQ2U I0YWVWIRfgb9e61U3cG7z6qalDaRRujv01fu//Yk= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from strobe-jhalfs ([178.1.126.66]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M2f9h-1ka1wf2Gn1-0048gh; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:10:14 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83r1oxwehu.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 13 Nov 2020 15:52:29 +0200") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:un9N6dYPfD8xWoz5WoqU0MMCFL7fGwFfXteMrviST/nLE6cwTG6 l2ETI68jZUA23UvRtEHKaRAjSYdsqoyS6iTL//Ai0niA/SHxq52t8wqaTwcn3/+jZWLiHeB eB1JNEin+65lo6V2qfdhXtduF1gezSvhzjchSxIFnDhUx8O9TIzRFLNmQHu8wUYLeycy38d njFGAw6b1X7tOsFTho6gQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:Zt6ydYxJf0I=:vphI7iBUUFiKJmMScBcAE/ rEcl/nM/bhC1vlYAtjbVBGYOHB5koz5NHhtHcxK5f8HxyVvFxne2357bvNgdd9igUG0IrCxeX GpjRUEqUDKuqGe08APIjhihgxcJ9NQFKKmiI7chAdtc2iTqWtHy+d49qkV8viFOybBYCZ2zGa hKaRUU1pe551XelTz2w1vBismwXqyIYcjGf6oGSllAwfvsmEt2Kj1GCWQl0ebQUzyhyat/GVJ R164W7lLcq+IWsLRwI6d8N/a7/mpVGzD5O6QwAOFxpyNr0j7YBQttU3Dm6HrYWUGuQHlb0xJ6 PuBs6YgmzUaYCdHKYB89C2Pdm45WwEzgODiNEwxcXBQ19wkd9zn7xjlGGxs9E7/jiDJ0jy7QJ Z70AY5opln4JVKO51rSOEU382jiftwYCljphk7Ylg6SpobYwdxqdWiUYj/SqRt4eu7aM5NFl1 I8P66Y4n78E3T0F6fa2U3LU3EpLzNWZ85T9cgEQT6hdtpDWjU2eAOBa2rmviFtOsPNeGIfdTq qcQQWCvrrjUXMaLL4CrreU2xAw4BVBEqnmvL2vHBdE+1FI2jE84+Gp5ajb1u+HxYcQbch601+ Ebhj9AFwNKbt4s8jcLd5aWRpbbQX8fxc8WIc5H/9uY2UqLmdDo8uGR+hgDpcyX4YgTmHztKke N813ANqiSFLgovCyfD76AW67OHhI6KImcNw7Dchzl0G5gka/Jtfrf+Br6JSMIwK+jfI2UfFpz furrrA0lbw9ZAp+k4apgbK3ItETrW9yqrEHdDZXoDVQsBd1YgVIM2AGFGQnSbmg8On7ilElQ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.19; envelope-from=stephen.berman@gmx.net; helo=mout.gmx.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/13 10:10:21 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:259145 Archived-At: On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 15:52:29 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 13:36:41 +0000 >> From: Gregory Heytings >> cc: rudalics@gmx.at, spacibba@aol.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, >> andreyk.mad@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> >> > No, I mean what would happen if we displayed a menu simulation by >> > showing menu items one below the other in a buffer, instead of using = the >> > toolkit menus, or even instead of the TTY menus we have nowadays. >> >> Okay, now I see what you mean. Indeed doing this for menus would not m= ake >> sense / would be ugly. But of course the essential difference here is >> that menus are not meant to be used with a keyboard > > Actually, menus (even GUI toolkit menus) work with the keyboard very ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > well. Including in Emacs. It's true that interaction with GUI I frequently use the keyboard to open, navigate and select items from menues in GTK builds of Emacs, but in my no-toolkit build, I can pop open the global menu with F10 but it responds to no further keyboard action, only to the mouse (this is under GNU/Linux). Is this a known limitation of no-toolkit menues? Steve Berman