From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#41129: outline-mode: New keybindings for demote/promote/move-subtree Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2021 05:49:41 +0100 Message-ID: <87pn1oxs7u.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87k0rx3792.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17786"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Pankaj Jangid , 41129@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 29 05:50:17 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l5Ljd-0004Wu-0w for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Perhaps it is possible to find a better alternative. Such an > alternative should ideally be suitable for at least all three of > outline-mode, org-mode and outline-minor-mode. > > It might be hard to settle on something that makes everyone happy, > however. Indeed. Major modes (like Org) have greater leeway in defining keystrokes than minor modes, though -- a minor mode has to be more careful not to redefine common keystrokes because there's less of a "buy in" from users than with a major mode like Org. So it might make sense for Org to bind M- to something while it'd be too intrusive for outline-minor-mode. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no