From: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: command mode-specificity [was: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change...]
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 01:35:29 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pn0zfs4u.fsf@telefonica.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: SA2PR10MB4474725E8B3BEB4D259DCAECF3879@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com
Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:
>> >> > Can you provide more than a sample of just 2 libraries?
>> >>
>> >> 5x5.el: 21 commands, 6 non-mode-specific ones.
>> >
>> > I hear "3" libraries. Do we have a bid for "4"? More?
>> >
>> > Anecdotal cherries are interesting, but...
>>
>> Go ahead and pick your own cherries.
>
> I'm not the one claiming that this new (proposed?
> already added?) feature is needed, and that most
> commands are mode-specific. My guess is that it's
> not needed and most commands are not mode-specific.
>
> You're the one proposing a change. What's the
> evidence for the need for it?
How do you expect to *prove* to you that I will benefit from the change?
Is there some sort of accepted dialectics for that purpose?
I explained many times, now and on the previous discussion about this
feature long time ago, why it would be so helpful to me that I will be
happy to devote many hours to tag as many commands as possible.
Then you handwave away common-sense arguments as irrelevant or
conflicting with some sort of imagined scenario, or because it goes
against some personal habits of abusing a feature (M-x for remembering
commands instead of C-h a? Seriously? And why that is an impediment for
improving M-x to better function for its stated purpose?)
You don't see a benefit on this feature *for you*. Fair enough. You are
uneasy with the changes on `interactive'. I wholeheartedly sympathize
with you here, for the reasons you expressed and some more. But please
don't come with "what's the evidence for the need of it?", because you
are sending a clear signal about being utterly uninterested on other's
opinions.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-17 0:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-16 19:50 command mode-specificity [was: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change...] Drew Adams
2021-02-16 19:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-16 20:23 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-16 20:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 22:05 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-16 22:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 22:31 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-16 22:38 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 23:22 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 0:35 ` Óscar Fuentes [this message]
2021-02-17 15:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 15:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 16:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 16:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 19:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 20:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 22:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 17:36 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 18:44 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 17:57 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 2:39 ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-17 3:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 0:13 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 0:17 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 0:54 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 18:11 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 18:40 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 19:01 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 20:09 ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-17 22:31 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 0:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 0:59 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 11:20 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 14:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 14:19 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 15:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 15:42 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 16:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 18:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 18:47 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 18:41 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 18:28 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 16:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 19:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 21:00 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 11:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 15:53 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 13:30 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 14:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 18:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-21 13:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 19:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 12:09 ` [External] : " Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 12:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 16:30 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 16:55 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 17:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 17:20 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 17:35 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 17:55 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-18 18:15 ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-19 8:47 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-19 8:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 11:21 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-19 12:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 18:15 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 19:32 ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 20:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 20:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 19:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 19:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 20:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 12:10 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 12:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 12:57 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 13:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 19:02 ` Yuan Fu
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