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From: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [External] : Re: command mode-specificity [was: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change...]
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 01:35:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pn0zfs4u.fsf@telefonica.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: SA2PR10MB4474725E8B3BEB4D259DCAECF3879@SA2PR10MB4474.namprd10.prod.outlook.com

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> >> > Can you provide more than a sample of just 2 libraries?
>> >>
>> >> 5x5.el: 21 commands, 6 non-mode-specific ones.
>> >
>> > I hear "3" libraries.  Do we have a bid for "4"?  More?
>> >
>> > Anecdotal cherries are interesting, but...
>> 
>> Go ahead and pick your own cherries.
>
> I'm not the one claiming that this new (proposed?
> already added?) feature is needed, and that most
> commands are mode-specific.  My guess is that it's
> not needed and most commands are not mode-specific.
>
> You're the one proposing a change.  What's the
> evidence for the need for it?

How do you expect to *prove* to you that I will benefit from the change?

Is there some sort of accepted dialectics for that purpose?

I explained many times, now and on the previous discussion about this
feature long time ago, why it would be so helpful to me that I will be
happy to devote many hours to tag as many commands as possible.

Then you handwave away common-sense arguments as irrelevant or
conflicting with some sort of imagined scenario, or because it goes
against some personal habits of abusing a feature (M-x for remembering
commands instead of C-h a? Seriously? And why that is an impediment for
improving M-x to better function for its stated purpose?)

You don't see a benefit on this feature *for you*. Fair enough. You are
uneasy with the changes on `interactive'. I wholeheartedly sympathize
with you here, for the reasons you expressed and some more. But please
don't come with "what's the evidence for the need of it?", because you
are sending a clear signal about being utterly uninterested on other's
opinions.




  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-17  0:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-16 19:50 command mode-specificity [was: scratch/command 064f146 1/2: Change...] Drew Adams
2021-02-16 19:54 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-16 20:23   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-02-16 20:53     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 22:05       ` Drew Adams
2021-02-16 22:15         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 22:31           ` Drew Adams
2021-02-16 22:38             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-16 23:22               ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17  0:35                 ` Óscar Fuentes [this message]
2021-02-17 15:47                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 15:59                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 16:15                       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 16:17                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 19:52                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 20:21                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 22:05                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 17:36                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 18:44                     ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 17:57                   ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17  2:39           ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-17  3:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17  0:13     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17  0:17       ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17  0:54         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 18:11           ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 18:40             ` Stefan Kangas
2021-02-17 19:01               ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 20:09               ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-17 22:31                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17  0:40       ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17  0:59         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-17 11:20         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 14:01           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 14:19             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 15:20               ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 15:42                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 16:12                   ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-17 18:26                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 18:47                     ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 18:41                   ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 18:28                 ` Drew Adams
2021-02-17 16:07               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 19:30                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-17 20:07                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-17 21:00                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 11:33                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-18 14:37                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 15:53                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 13:30                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 14:43                             ` Stefan Monnier
2021-02-20 14:52                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-20 18:00                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-21 13:10                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-21 19:57                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 12:09                         ` [External] : " Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 12:27                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 16:30                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 16:55                         ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 17:08                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 17:20                             ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 17:35                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 17:55                                 ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-18 18:15                                   ` Yuan Fu
2021-02-19  8:47                                     ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-19  8:55                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 11:21                                         ` Robert Pluim
2021-02-19 12:25                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 18:15                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 19:32                                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2021-02-18 20:14                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 20:24                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 19:42                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-18 19:57                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2021-02-18 20:04                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-19 12:10                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 12:41                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-19 12:57                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-02-19 13:12                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2021-02-17 19:02           ` Yuan Fu

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