From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Would you say this information window is well designed? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:265529 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > That's what happens with "helpful.el", and it doesn't make for the best > experience when the function is not in any manual. It would be better > to not show a link in that case. Yes, making symbols into links that go nowhere is an awful design, so the lookup has to be done before the buttonizing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no