From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marco Wahl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50727: Contradictory conventions with new command kbd-macro-display Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 08:58:45 +0200 Organization: Marco Wahl Message-ID: <87pmt1ume2.fsf@gmail.com> References: <052fb8a67e5e307120ba@heytings.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="2244"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Gregory Heytings , 50727@debbugs.gnu.org, larsi@gnus.org To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 22 08:59:15 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mSwDq-0000Ii-B7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 08:59:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35438 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mSwDm-0008MS-Ve for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:59:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60096) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mSwDe-0008M0-TW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:59:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37137) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mSwDe-0003ur-7l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSwDe-00013n-3S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:59:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Marco Wahl Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2021 06:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50727 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 50727-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50727.16322939354059 (code B ref 50727); Wed, 22 Sep 2021 06:59:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 50727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Sep 2021 06:58:55 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48683 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSwDW-00013M-NJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:58:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-f43.google.com ([209.85.221.43]:38536) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mSwDV-000134-BG for 50727@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Sep 2021 02:58:54 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-f43.google.com with SMTP id u18so3728747wrg.5 for <50727@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:58:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=tFIpMWVGhPdmlJvU6KfMxK4tj0l1J0d6H0UrEGlcD30=; b=AsokbNULYc7jxUSksv59Csw6fQ1Fai8fwg9gMOTzry4CG/v8cUoaQv3O6kT6BtyGWE lTbXuuxzrWHHhxGpBlkCZbZ53Fky2wxDqE8/p/IEmzbTVXJJHhwg9L3EK2aoXvYnpTE6 emeFIsGVzltcIK4635Qz19wznQDbdOVatGeu1T2APS8LXzjGmHBe5ZzlZndRpTqptKSQ 20WWYsHdlH36N9f96ksLmop945gL8fWdXlh7RcOdqqB7U90zLCa6ofWQJx1vac9kRZql uWhYj3PfvSI6ONajPmWPP3T+0JBoc9sG6y1nYvq269S61Uo5Zd1jIL+UYie3v3MazM/z Bwnw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=tFIpMWVGhPdmlJvU6KfMxK4tj0l1J0d6H0UrEGlcD30=; b=yM62+yO7QucYVbl4ugFcMk6lwuXQNO4/PA2XhXcHVbMW1wHDdj8fzV1OwFGsFN2ezu Esri7Ou6EUycuwGTMTcROSuWFQxkevtKLiA1ivK1FIrho+MoWQGKdnRUX6SuVQddhcU0 zjho3atBW2abAkVV48f3yOz0gEcoHchaAeoNkH4o4MM2xnTlmXKcnU8tisVFS9Ul7yj4 shY27Wcy6of09XGC7gO8XL2KbXLxzerc6u+M/Mb52QuvONTKlGkczARpP2d8vtbw2W9p KmzR2G0hO64ADRmLWVTDDzRWXxca2CL9rOMuP+CZWIGVm7dLAiQJ8MKtzi2EjjkKNfsM HUrw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5318uSXUiO7gL2/y2i//CAWdT8X6v+hXU7bRXBNuNuj4XQgkaK9Z l73F7nM5IofdqX6pB6sF2SA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwcZF8VksCZDuTF8JlFhOOvcnvDuhfQRf3/+QSvHHNPUMjk+gXCIMByXKpU4EDZooqMpOuvnA== X-Received: by 2002:a05:600c:a05:: with SMTP id z5mr8720726wmp.73.1632293927175; Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from aspire-5942 (p200300d86749f800b0f1ea34f04cf395.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [2003:d8:6749:f800:b0f1:ea34:f04c:f395]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m4sm5174531wml.28.2021.09.21.23.58.46 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:58:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Tue, 21 Sep 2021 23:37:35 -0700") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215063 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Gregory Heytings writes: > >> It's 'kbd-macro-redisplay', not 'kbd-macro-display'. > > Sorry, yes: `kbd-macro-redisplay'. > >> Indeed it conflicts with the keys that are supposed to be reserved for >> user bindings, but it is by far not the only one: >> >> C-x C-k Q kdb-macro-redisplay >> C-x C-k b kmacro-bind-to-key >> C-x C-k e edit-kbd-macro >> C-x C-k l kmacro-edit-lossage >> C-x C-k n kmacro-name-last-macro >> C-x C-k q kbd-macro-query >> C-x C-k r apply-macro-to-region-lines >> C-x C-k s kmacro-start-macro >> C-x C-k x kmacro-to-register > > I believe only the first one of these breaks the convention, as it is > the only one to use an upper-case letter. Thanks for pointing out the issue! Now what to do? What about dropping key sequence C-x C-k Q and use C-x C-k d instead? Or even dropping that key sequence entirey? I vote for keeping a key sequence for kdb-macro-redisplay, tho.