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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:285679 Archived-At: Robert Pluim writes: > Po> It could use some clarification of what consistutes a "display", = though, > Po> since these days most computer users expect that to mean "monitor= ". > Would it make sense to say "remote display"? And since we=CA=BCre at it, > how about filling in some sensible defaults? An X display might not be remote, and the word "remote" might suggest a protocol such as VNC or RDP instead of X. How about "New frame on X server"? > + (x-display-list) nil > + nil (car (x-display-list)) > + nil (car (x-display-list)))) This looks great.