From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Brian Cully <bjc@spork.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [ELPA] New package: nspawn-tramp
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2022 19:11:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pmnizpza.fsf@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c2ab0522-4667-9351-b2aa-41f1bee12174@spork.org> (Brian Cully's message of "Sat, 19 Feb 2022 10:27:19 -0500")
Brian Cully <bjc@spork.org> writes:
Hi Brian,
> On 2/19/22 10:05, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> I'd be happy to add it to GNU ELPA, but I have a few questions/comments
>> some of which may affect this decision, so I haven't done it yet:
>> - It's usually spelled "Tramp" rather than "TRAMP", AFAIK.
>
> The info page for it has it spelled as "TRAMP", although the
> link to it from the list in the top-level (from "M-x info")
> has it as "Tramp". I assume the former is correct given its
> specificity.
In tramp.texi, we use @value{tramp}. This variable is declared in
trampver.texi as
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
@set tramp @sc{Tramp}
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
Therefore, it appears in info pages as "TRAMP". In Elisp docstrings and
comments, we use "Tramp". It looks a little bit inconsistent, but it is
... history. This texinfo variable was declared long before I've ever
heard about Tramp.
>> - Any reason why you want to have it as a separate package rather than
>> add it to Tramp?
>
> TRAMP provides a plugin capability, which is being used by
> other packages, and it's already a behemoth. I see no need to
> include this directly within TRAMP itself, as its needs are
> perfectly addressed without.
I understand your ressentiments. OTOH, living outside the Tramp source
tree let you miss changes. For example, Tramp meanwhile doesn't hardcode
"/bin/sh" any longer, but uses tramp-default-remote-shell instead. Not a
big deal for now, but these little adaptions make a Tramp package more
consistent, because you would get such a change for free if your package
is bundled with Tramp directly.
Best regards, Michael.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-02-19 18:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-02-19 14:09 [ELPA] New package: nspawn-tramp Brian Cully
2022-02-19 15:05 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-02-19 15:13 ` Andreas Schwab
2022-02-19 15:27 ` Brian Cully
2022-02-19 18:11 ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2022-02-19 20:21 ` Brian Cully
2022-02-20 13:37 ` Michael Albinus
2022-02-20 14:51 ` Stefan Monnier
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