From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#54191: [External] : Re: bug#54191: 26.3; (elisp) `Magic File Names' FILENAME parameters: absolute names? 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Tue, 01 Mar 2022 12:55:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 28 Feb 2022 16:26:00 +0000") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:Q+YClrm8kv+SNsWzFGX6UyIaQzMDgiuRfc/ilTqLds2qYFiBnvE gm0AYRgrkbkAe/FlcdO0DgRWTsLzVFBwu6r59MHh3R1myD/br7Jc1eu2gsGJHN7jaz+k1rf arZrds3oCjIGexeMVHiEJcibl7kaiwUUSMxb7emFz5OwrJAqhup8lvlA7rcjUtGeP6/Pduc J6KPRf4MCT7aqxxgKtwnQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:bdxXp5PWKj0=:qkx6t1L76ooJMQpKSghTjt UFofb5ylFRSpx8rbuGipSLJqRqpisNfCmWhzuyVrdIBLhJ9kiLCGFDxAyDGRTGuehiyX0bPv4 iY+8XktCkHYCK7RavrqfYuMFwsOoQQ9pgQcYTXH78PeoVRtU5scBxj+yqMR+6Gt7i1hBpGL1+ DUXCol1lLVFyKIt+GUHxAuqDNEeQoiKQYn7RSS9BRgvyHuU0HVIgEfAMzUqdTKwA5GsAZijY4 Elrplxtiixe0Hb8pArH+/O+P6oSUt0axW4WlZOA9QFDcNqli30ogVJrHQjDa/I/tKLboV03ws qTr7nJWIiKMh0sgmedPLrnjQPcbQhfTajnM15Xelm664SIitFbcLHVVvCRt/VAdu6Ej6DbtQV 1vtG0mRRkmYXXLePVXaKEvV58VmDun9thqmBu4FtglXatY4VnnmrSvbaJfjkBp5cADxxOB5K6 IwvyVE+a6f/oaqlEns4c2fEcvGnufXIVeux+lL2g0e8AmdjQRdBjufvK36hfYNjfKs6PZ8de9 NI/c5/P24BpMVMZWvSRtKnn9NigawFmKSlIt3zhizBvunlzSWdrkHCYTZw2BfD4vozWXWvpK9 Plc38d1STo/gkKD7gT5ZHI/WY8gVlvzn6HZrAPBqNN9vySI6DRlBIHwVXrJ/JB7207XF1ybOK tS2J/N8jCU7wKzbnD3B+o0Ip5U4q6CoZVsbzLW5OSurlBNjNrF/PWYZ7Hixf7+poURIJxRjuH sYqHsEVhDVmkMgXF969l5NM+i1ONtoAQuJ5/kc1tIA4h49Q8225UHjkaXS5Ozt0lcjSIYuI1 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:227858 Archived-At: Drew Adams writes: Hi Drew, > Neither the manual nor the doc strings (except > `file-remote-p', at least) state that the file name > is expected to be absolute - or more precisely say > what the behavior is for absolute vs relative. But > that info is important for using the functions, IMO. > > All I was saying there was that (1) the doc string > of `file-remote-p' does in fact say what happens > differently for a relative file name - which is good, > helpful, and (2) I noticed this happy exception after > filing the general report that the doc (strings & > manual) generally does NOT mention what kind of file > name is expected, for functions that accept a file name. > > That general lack is the reported bug. That there > are happy exceptions doesn't mean there aren't places > where the doc (strings or manual or both) can be > clarified to specify this. Except the file-remote-p case, there is no need to say something special about relative or absolute file names in case of file operations working remotely. They simply work the same way in the local or remote case. (If not it would be a bug.) Best regards, Michael.