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From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: lamers on IRC
Date: Mon, 23 May 2022 08:30:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pmk4jmgc.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Yosur/UB12LXTyBr@protected.localdomain

Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:

> * Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org> [2022-05-23 00:22]:
>> One problem with IRC is the presence of lamers, luckily this
>> problem can be solved easily with technology starting with the
>> IRC client. Today I learned how to do this with my client,
>> ERC:
>
> 😥 Emacs channel for years has no moderators who moderate by common
> sense and police the channel for good behavior, there are no special
> rules, and those policies displayed like to avoid discrimination and
> asshatery will be quickly broken by those few dominating over larger
> group of people there.
>
> And people participating, often few hundreds of them may think and get
> opinion that rude behavior is acceptable -- no it is not normal, there
> are many occurences of unfriendly and abusively dominating behavior. 
>
> Some of alpha monkey dominators will switch from channel to channel
> after the user and even complain why did that user go to other
> channel. They go because of abusive behavior.
>
> Public come to #emacs for Emacs reasons. They will often find
> narcissists' behavior and abuse. Insults and mockery are common.
>
> #emacs IMHO is not GNU governedchannel, rather it is GNU project
> related channel, IMHO, is also not moderated by GNU Kind
> Communication Guidelines.
>
> This is appearing as generalization, as I do not want to mention the
> dominators' nick names.
>
> Some people complain on Libreplanet mailing list on unwelcoming
> environments in social networks around free software. I can really
> understand such complaints, and I like to point to friendly digital
> places for help. IMHO #emacs channel on IRC is such place due to few
> dominating parties. This is because dominators live in their own
> digital world behind the computer, forgetting about the human beings
> on other side of the world.

The Emacs channel on Matrix is a pretty reasonable place.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-05-23 15:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-22 21:20 lamers on IRC Emanuel Berg
2022-05-23  6:50 ` Jean Louis
2022-05-23 10:51   ` Colin Baxter
2022-05-23 21:45     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-23 15:30   ` Eric Abrahamsen [this message]
2022-05-23 15:41     ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-23 16:12       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-05-24 22:14     ` Jon Fineman
2022-05-24 22:49       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2022-05-25 16:55         ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-25  5:07       ` Jean Louis
2022-05-23 16:47   ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-23 21:46     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-23 21:42   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-25  5:26     ` Jean Louis
2022-05-25 22:36       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-25 23:55         ` Samuel Wales
2022-05-25 23:58           ` Samuel Wales
2022-05-26  1:48             ` Samuel Banya
2022-05-27  2:25               ` Jean Louis
2022-05-27 10:13                 ` Jean Louis
2022-05-27 14:16                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-05-27 15:12                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-27 16:13                     ` Jean Louis
2022-05-28  0:17                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-27 15:06                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-27 15:51                     ` Samuel Banya
2022-05-28  0:08                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28  4:11                         ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-28  4:21                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28  4:39                             ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-28  4:54                               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28  5:04                                 ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-28  5:12                                   ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-28 15:11                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28 15:08                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28 16:12                                     ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-28 16:54                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-29  3:50                                         ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-29 23:52                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-30  0:07                                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-30  0:57                                               ` Thomas Lord
2022-05-30  2:24                                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-30  2:33                                                   ` Thomas Lord
2022-06-01  0:13                                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-09  9:13                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28  6:49                         ` Jean Louis
2022-05-28 15:16                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-27 16:19                     ` Jean Louis
2022-05-28  0:18                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28  4:04                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-05-28  4:30                       ` Byung-Hee HWANG
2022-05-28  4:32                         ` Emanuel Berg

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