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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290727 Archived-At: Akib Azmain Turja writes: > Ihor Radchenko writes: > >> Po Lu writes: >> >>>> That's true but wouldn't it be possible to extract the font-lock/faces >>>> related parts in a separate file with no dependencies which can be >>>> loaded quickly enough? I mean, the purpose would only be to display org >>>> and markdown READMEs with the highlighting intended by the package >>>> author but there's no point in enabling the gazillon of other features >>>> (from editing to time-tracking to spreadsheet computations) those >>>> packages might provide in addition. >>> >>> That wouldn't be Org mode anymore then, just an outline with some >>> additional fontification rules. >> >> Isn't *Help* buffer supposed to be read-only? There is no point loading >> Org editing features if editing is not going to happen. >> >> Best, >> Ihor > > Yes, *Help* is read only. > > I can't understand why people are suggesting to Org mode in package > description. I'm again saying that the README.org should be converted > (exported) to plain text on package installation (I won't recommend to > do this server, since its probably SaaSS and would increase server > load). I don't understand how this thread diverged, this proposal seems absolutely sensible. Why should a package that is not installed get converted to plain text, while when installed you see the org source code? >From what I see this could be fixed if elpa-admin added a "README-elpa" with the rendered text into the tarball.