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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291792 Archived-At: [=E0=AE=9A=E0=AE=A9=E0=AE=BF =E0=AE=9C=E0=AF=82=E0=AE=B2=E0=AF=88 02, 2022]= James Thomas wrote: > Visuwesh wrote: > >> the motion keys back. However, I have only ever used the Tamil IM and >> thus have no idea about the other languages. Then we can adjust the >> quail-define-indian-trans-package function to pass a custom SIMPLE >> argument instead. > > There do not seem to be any ambiguous (multiple) transliterations in the > ITRANS specification [1] nor in any of the other tables (like 'aiba') in > ind-util.el, from a quick glance at the code. So you would be correct. Thanks. I also came to that conclusion after reading the base-tables for other languages. > But in that case, couldn't the DETERMINISTIC argument also be set, as I > had done separately for malayalam-mozhi? > Unfortunately, I'm not quite sure what it does. I also cannot read Malayalam at all so I cannot try to figure it out by trial and error (I can at least read Devanagari a bit). Can you explain what it does? > -- > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITRANS