From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Odd problem with KDE, desktop switching and window focus Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2022 15:48:30 +0800 Message-ID: <87pmcifp2p.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <87y1r7ni3w.fsf@telefonica.net> <87y1r6g6vt.fsf@yahoo.com> <87iliaiu38.fsf@telefonica.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15179"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar?= Fuentes Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 17 08:49:27 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p6Rwl-0003kI-Kg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 08:49:27 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6RwA-0001AN-84; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 02:48:50 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6Rw8-0001A8-4x for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 02:48:48 -0500 Original-Received: from sonic314-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.189.148]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1p6Rw5-0002WE-S1 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 02:48:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1671263319; bh=IPcVwhqwFC/T8IiyytnCQYiKoQjk3F4E4ZtYOeJHJbw=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=PjhS6EVUCUZm4ndoZSDHuAt+MNdDYHoUrPo2HT7VHDCzyPOT9OgK6bu9nu8Kk5/tqcA/pELNJQoAKSMeKTJeZbi4DC2a25cJcCLaDuB8R289RR+Ko4bNHc+NSUIImtFOIg3UadyGKn8g8RNgY103J3cdEIPIqFHmzNA9MaWZn3t1MV5PL0U/xm+eJU1q75HKs48ZUHh2UAo2nMA2TcbresOMlaQdyj5i+4MnjOSaKsT8jXDKUu5BksWUKdCjJlwEyukWwKCNzXSwnDYmTBHhNMQT5OfJzQbeQPC8DBvUxT/HdJJ3UQpp8Ey+Z9DxgN83hIgrDlcQxElmtzMi6CpNTA== X-SONIC-DKIM-SIGN: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1671263319; bh=jgrNI5Pf+cJDKY8RWHEmwgR91ha8ASs5AngfK/BCwRX=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=FQLf+Wftu2Rq6+q78puZ+KRHEROpNeTNEduiVbj2+hPndLfMNK9RKWCSstDSBGopHc1DBXeYSxmDTjt1SCppnLV34mZ863p+MCijaza9NgnliYWGNbTf9zw3r6myROpF/MXpMtCk9ErlsJ6AyDcFjFT7LKFk7qoh/R7j2t2k+BzqjQ4FH/cQo1nCcwHFoz/y4YxQpLwbMS/h4xjtYmZYfo/P77K7EynWGZh8ZqJDv0AVRN5ZD/t3Br4zNxoU4uMXO12Q1tYwcsnQPGXKx2jKMJPSlWnSRvPdyFAsvf6bJ2c03+gjSV1WW+IxmvvobJDdNvBX83stckp1CqEc6ZXuIg== X-YMail-OSG: t58GnbEVM1n_MrzSWt23E36GvWE.0W_Y72fYYcnNXY4jZDzKEdhi.3XYXQl4T9a co.xvP.KlM33Rhw4GMONgaDKlo.UhffK006Zv_eZ0cJsRnqbREtg_p0uYhstZ6nsGloB8SVFzzsh tqfslIS5rl4UdilR1TmSbbQ3ADmuwehTBVDevBjfWC0I6vAiwYM60Z.hXblV92qTz5Fk1Pb.HrvU .8kpAL4T64nmOcPDqnVne4h._rrAzh0BCRMwIRoUqg4GTHyTj8jB2DJTZGE8helw8XejEywYGFNl zpb1ZNxm9bbnxUnPOnv3YffexbYe8OdUOgkkg4Z8euhtogZ68CHK34yxoAGQtvDRHIbwWGmlQEsL Tu8H6SSmZ929FkmSZK3zzQMyRo3r.yOr499cr1V0MDqLO.sKOYwV2qQLYg6uEyokDVT6wJDl9Kxt mnVhEAKGNV6z3tZXrf7HMU2fqLQElj1XDCOw8ASQ5NDie_r3JU0pGLYmMli0ivXXAeD_QldFu4uu wP9f52mungVjD_tKrUDa1PLX4ligWnvWodIk3BlXIUJgxJg6L30uWHq_nhhon5eQnV88gzVVqBNV 03vFPRxVXxakePA2isUVHjw3fKXSkrwSGsXjcSyiGQX2AIDZoTugZVU99FNC5f32XhLacAyuLaNG lOpGkb_lq7kKSAb5XqUFRFO229WvWsaudWpNd5hKv2Tc4pwMbk1J5YEq1h5L1VA7AJQyNlrl5Zj5 G3JjzAHUL8x9_jm0EuObGol1C0x.3oYcnM_gBFycnxOl8r2rsGUEJPfHxLnFpCPGf_eZUkb4EKDT _MYYTRh5Lqb6IanWV0AkbSEs7zSsi2qGVqFerHaln3 X-Sonic-MF: Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic314.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 07:48:39 +0000 Original-Received: by hermes--production-sg3-b666c6484-nr67k (Yahoo Inc. Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 92226a770e3556d1a3f514ad35607364; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 07:48:36 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87iliaiu38.fsf@telefonica.net> (=?utf-8?Q?=22=C3=93scar?= Fuentes"'s message of "Sat, 17 Dec 2022 04:31:55 +0100") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20982 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.189.148; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic314-22.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:141816 Archived-At: =C3=93scar Fuentes writes: > starting with just one frame: > > M-x eval (setq x-no-window-manager t) > > created new frame with C-x 5 2, switch to the original frame, C-x 5 0 to > kill it, set focus to firefox, switch desktops, same thing. [...] > Sorry, what this means? (if you mean a bug on my configuration or KDE, I > concur.) I meant a problem caused by Emacs implementating _NET_WM_USER_TIME (which can either lie in Emacs or in the window manager.) But what you said makes that seem unlikely. > But going back to the basics, emacs -Q does not show the problem, so > after resorting to good ol' bisecting of .emacs.el, the problem is > triggered by the presence of this line: > > (setq frame-title-format (concat "Emacs: %b %+%+ %f @ " (system-name))) Thanks, then I think this sounds like a (weird) bug with your window manager.