From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Question about start-process and argument list Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2023 10:25:36 -0800 Message-ID: <87pmapz3rz.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87r0v7wgrp.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <63dd5f91.050a0220.1f3dc.df39@mx.google.com> <878rhel9zf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36654"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:xUa+/415djkD+yCKsV0YOhxvuvg= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 04 19:34:26 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pONMo-0009JX-M6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2023 19:34:26 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pONM3-0001Ha-F4; Sat, 04 Feb 2023 13:33:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pONEc-0000TL-Kz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2023 13:25:58 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pONEb-0004Ay-6C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2023 13:25:58 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pONEY-0009CO-9i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2023 19:25:54 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 04 Feb 2023 13:33:38 -0500 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302976 Archived-At: Jean Louis writes: >> > compatible with any possible way to quote and parse arguments on a >> > command line on any possible OS > > I do not consider above statement logically related to your statement > below. Maybe I have taken it out of context, but I consider that above > statement may apply to `start-process' but not to > `start-process-shell-command' exactly to avoid problems with quoting. > >> Kind of sounds like I should be using `start-process-shell-command' >> again! As I understand it, this is its main selling point. > > That one has problems with quoting! > > Use `start-process' or `call-process' Okay I finally understood why I was confused about this. These programs essentially don't interact with the shell at all. File globbing is irrelevant, as is the brace notation, I think even $PWD doesn't matter. So there's no advantage to running in a shell, and I should treat it as much like a system call as possible. Thanks to all for helping me get my brain on front-to-back...