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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305519 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2023 18:30:47 +0300 >> Cc: joaotavora@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> >> When you say "keeping core packages only on ELPA", what do you mean exactly? > > That core packages will be only in elpa.git, not in emacs.git. Then > we'd "bundle" them with Emacs when preparing the release tarballs. > > I believe this is a long-term plan wrt core packages. It was even > discussed a couple of times here. For people building Emacs from source, would this mean that they would have to manually install core packages? Also, this sounds like it would make it impossible for package.el to be distributed on ELPA, as proposed in another thread.