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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 65734@debbugs.gnu.org, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, iota@whxvd.name
Subject: bug#65734: [BUG] kill-whole-line on folded subtrees [9.6.8 (release_9.6.8-3-g21171d @ /home/w/usr/emacs/0/29/0/lisp/org/)]
Date: Thu, 07 Sep 2023 10:00:49 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pm2upajy.fsf__27226.7338282958$1694080880$gmane$org@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <837cp3333w.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> >> In addition, `org-kill-line' acts specially in certain scenarios:
>> >> 
>> >> For
>> >> * Heading <point> text :tag1:tag2:
>> >> 
>> >> `org-kill-line' will keep and re-align ":tag1:tag2:":
>> >> 
>> >> * Heading <point>      :tag1:tag2:
>> >> 
>> >> It would be nice if we could express such behavior without overriding
>> >> the `kill-line' command.
>> ...
>> I am not sure if I like the idea of text property - marking all the tags
>> in buffer with text property is expensive.
>
> Then perhaps just a special value for buffer-invisibility-spec, or
> some other simple variation of a property Org already uses?

We may have a misunderstanding here.
In "* Heading text :tag1:tag2:", everything is visible yet Org needs to
protect ":tag1:tag2: from being killed by `kill-line', but not from
`kill-whole-line'. Moreover, the behaviour also depends on the point
position - if point is inside ":tag1:tag2:", we fall back to the default
behaviour. And the whole "special" behaviour can also be switched off by
flipping `org-special-ctrl-k'.

Invisibility has nothing to do with this need.

>> What about something like `end-of-visible-line-function'?
>
> That is also a possibility, but it will then affect kill-line
> _anywhere_ in the buffer, whereas a text property can have a more
> localized effect.  Are you sure kill-line will need this customization
> on the whole buffer?

Applying text property is not free - (1) we need to do it across the
whole buffer, which scales poorly; (2) we need to keep it updated as the
buffer changes, which scales even worse. In addition, adding more text
properties slow down redisplay, which Org already strains to its limits.

-- 
Ihor Radchenko // yantar92,
Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at <https://orgmode.org/>.
Support Org development at <https://liberapay.com/org-mode>,
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-07 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 119+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-04 16:30 [BUG] kill-whole-line on folded subtrees [9.6.8 (release_9.6.8-3-g21171d @ /home/w/usr/emacs/0/29/0/lisp/org/)] Sebastian Miele
2023-09-05 10:29 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05 10:29   ` bug#65734: " Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05 11:54   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-05 11:54     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-05 15:25     ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-05 15:25     ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-05 15:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-05 15:50       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06  8:23         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06  8:23           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 12:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 13:30             ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-06 13:30             ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-07 13:49               ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-07 13:49                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-10 16:31               ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-10 16:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-12 13:04                   ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-12 14:09                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-25 18:53                   ` Sebastian Miele
2024-01-06  8:58                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-19 14:01                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-19 14:50                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-22  9:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-22  9:51                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 19:26                             ` bug#65734: 29.1.50; kill-whole-line and visibility of Org subtrees Andrea Corallo
2024-06-22 19:00                           ` bug#65734: [BUG] kill-whole-line on folded subtrees [9.6.8 (release_9.6.8-3-g21171d @ /home/w/usr/emacs/0/29/0/lisp/org/)] Stefan Kangas
2024-06-27  8:41                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-04 12:42                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-12-04 23:20                   ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-06  8:30     ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06  8:30       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 12:20       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 12:20         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-07 10:00         ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-09-07 10:00         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-07 10:19           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-07 10:27             ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-07 10:27             ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-07 13:43             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-07 13:43             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-07 10:19           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-06 15:04       ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-07 10:03         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-07 10:03         ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-06 15:04       ` Sebastian Miele
2023-09-05 14:30   ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-05 15:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-05 15:42       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-05 15:50       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05 16:02         ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-05 16:02           ` Max Nikulin
2023-09-05 16:12           ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05 16:12             ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05 16:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-05 16:14         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-07 16:27         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-07 16:27           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-08 12:15           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-08 12:15             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-08 15:33             ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-09 14:52               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09 16:48                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-09 16:48                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-09 22:21                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09 22:21                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09 14:52               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-08 15:33             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-09 15:47             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09 15:47               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09 16:01               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-09 16:01                 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-09 22:33                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-09 22:33                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10  3:08                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-10  3:08                     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-10 12:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-10 13:05                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 13:55                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 15:50                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 15:50                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 16:05                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 16:15                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 16:15                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 16:44                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 18:08                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 19:19                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 19:19                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 12:24                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 12:24                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 12:32                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 12:32                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 12:39                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 14:03                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 14:03                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-12 14:15                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 14:15                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 12:39                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 21:09                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-12 21:09                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-12 21:16                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-12 21:16                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 18:08                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 16:44                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 16:05                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-10 13:55                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-10 16:26                       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-10 16:39                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-10 16:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-11 15:44                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-11 15:44                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 16:26                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-01-10 13:05                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-01-10 12:52                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-05 15:50       ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-09-05 14:30   ` Max Nikulin
2024-01-09 15:50 ` Ihor Radchenko

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