From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Question about cl-flet and cl-letf Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2023 23:53:09 +0200 Message-ID: <87pm11aw56.fsf@web.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6695"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:9VP3pFhJVenYNd2ZzRKbLS7M1SM= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 26 23:54:03 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qw8Ik-0001Wx-Qc for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 23:54:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qw8Hw-0007sP-W6; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 17:53:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qw8Hw-0007sH-1F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 17:53:12 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qw8Hu-0003cU-Hr for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 17:53:11 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qw8Hr-0000F0-7A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 26 Oct 2023 23:53:07 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:145392 Archived-At: Arash Esbati writes: > Hi all, > > my understanding of the manual and docstring of the macros mentioned > above is that these two pieces of code should be equivalent: > > (cl-flet ((y-or-n-p #'always)) > (while (...) > BODY)) > > (cl-letf (((symbol-function 'y-or-n-p) #'always)) > (while (...) > BODY)) > > I have an use-case where they are not. Before getting into details > about the function (which is long) and trying to come up with a reduced > version: Am I correct with the assumption above? No - they very different. `cl-flet' creates lexical bindings. Your `cl-letf' call OTOH temporarily changes the function binding of the symbol `y-or-n-p' - which more or less gives you dynamical binding. Michael.