From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jens Schmidt via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#66780: [PATCH] Improve rectangle-mark-mode when transient-mark-mode is off Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 15:49:03 +0100 Message-ID: <87pm0x32n4.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> References: <0b1f5f23-b683-4367-beae-332a8d850d32@vodafonemail.de> <83zg03clik.fsf@gnu.org> <871qdf3trr.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <83lebnc8tn.fsf@gnu.org> <87y1fm3o78.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <83edhedgy4.fsf@gnu.org> <87v8aq3dr2.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <83a5s2d789.fsf@gnu.org> <87sf5u38if.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> <837cn6d1ly.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Jens Schmidt Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39229"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: 66780@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 29 15:50:46 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qx77l-000A3l-K3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Sun, 29 Oct 2023 14:49:21 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from sappc2 (port-92-194-99-65.dynamic.as20676.net [92.194.99.65]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (prime256v1) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.vodafone.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4SJK6Y0pHhzMm7F; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 14:49:06 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <837cn6d1ly.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 28 Oct 2023 21:48:57 +0300") X-purgate-type: clean X-purgate: clean X-purgate-size: 961 X-purgate-ID: 155817::1698590957-55FFB228-CDDCB7B2/0/0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:273512 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Serious reasons to make the change. For this particular one, I guess > arguments for why this situation is not as obscure and unimportant as > it looks. Obscure aspects of Emacs use do not get to be described in > the user manual, since the manual is not supposed to describe every > command, variable, and function we have in Emacs, only those deemed > important enough. For the rest, there are the doc string and Help > commands that search those doc strings and help users find those > symbols even though they are not in the manual. More or less agreeing. > For starters, I'd need to know about it, so I could understand what it > tells me when it is present. When it _is_ present, it's quite > possible that some other mode-line information important to me will be > pushed outside of the visible part. Still disagreeing, but anyway. Let's wait for Stefan's verdict on fix C. Thanks.