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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314078 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > Manuel, would you please describe in detail how you debug such an >> > Emacs? That is, how you start GDB in gdb-mi, and how you "connect" >> > GDB to the Emacs session launched as above? >> >> Nothing special here. I just do 'M-x gdb' from the Emacs src directory >> so it automatically propose to lauch "egdb -i=3Dmi emacs" and I hit ent= er. >> (don't mind the 'e' in "egdb" it is the name of binary for recent GDB o= n >> OpenBSD) > > And "emacs" in the above "M-x gdb" command is a shell script that > starts Emacs via dbus-launch? If not, i.e. if "emacs" is the Emacs > binary itself, then how is dbus-launch involved in this? dbus-launch starts another session bus, which is different from the default one: =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- # env | grep DBUS DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=3Dunix:path=3D/run/user/1000/bus # dbus-launch env | grep DBUS DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=3Dunix:path=3D/tmp/dbus-t1LP7XjmxF,guid=3D9672c32= 358416ef3dfccdb4465859e93 =2D-8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Everything which is started inside the dbus-launch umbrella uses this private bus, and not the default one. So it could be already a problem, when a process tries to communicate with another process, and these processes are started from inside and from outside the umbrella, respectively. No second dbus-launch is needed. Same for two process under different dbus-launch umbrellas. Best regards, Michael.