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From: Thanos Apollo <public@thanosapollo.org>
To: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Writting Greek in Emacs
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:55:31 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ploya3i4.fsf@thanosapollo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878qvmh53h.fsf@gmail.com>

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Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com> writes:

>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 15:24:13 +0300, Thanos Apollo <public@thanosapollo.org> said:
>
>     Thanos> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>     >> 
>     >> I'm not sure this is related.  As I wrote, it is okay for the input
>     >> method not to support more than one tonos following a base character.
>     >> But that does not (and should not) prevent the user from typing as
>     >> many tonos accents as he/she pleases by other means.  The only
>     >> requirement from Emacs is not to crash as result of displaying such
>     >> sequences.
>
>     Thanos> I think there is also a misunderstanding here about how we input
>     Thanos> accents.  First we define the accent e.g "´" and then we add the vowel
>     Thanos> "α" -> "ά".  We do not add a vowel and then "throw" accents at it, thus
>     Thanos> it's not possible to add multiple tonos etc.
>
> Then thereʼs no issue. Just define "´´" -> "´" etc
>

The issue is that some greek input methods, such as greek-polytinic
that was recommended, have that in reverse.  They first add a character
and then the user can throw unlimited accents at it, e.g

ᾴ́́́́́́́́́́́́́́́́́́́́̔̔̔̔̔̔̔̔̔̔̓̓̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈̈ͅͅͅͅͅͅͅͅ

This should be considered a different language, not Greek.

>     Thanos> Combinations of accents have specific keybindings, usually using
>     Thanos> modifier keys (Meta, Control).  Do you have any examples of quail or any
>     Thanos> other input method that uses modifier keys?
>
> I donʼt think thatʼs currently possible in quail. "quail.el"
> explicitly says "ASCII key string".
>

Thank you, do you have any ideas of how to approach creating an input method that
uses modifier keys?

-- 
Thanos Apollo
https://thanosapollo.org

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-20 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-19 14:43 Writting Greek in Emacs Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 14:57 ` Greg Farough
2024-09-19 16:12   ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 16:49     ` Greg Farough
2024-09-19 16:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 16:32   ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 16:42     ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-19 16:44     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 17:05       ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 17:44         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 18:06           ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 18:27             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 19:04               ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20  5:56                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 18:03         ` Visuwesh
2024-09-19 18:13           ` Visuwesh
2024-09-19 19:03           ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-19 18:07         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-19 19:02           ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20  5:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20  9:18               ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20  9:47                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-20 10:40                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 11:16                   ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20 12:24                   ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20 12:39                     ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-20 12:55                       ` Thanos Apollo [this message]
2024-09-20 13:41                         ` Robert Pluim
2024-09-20 13:35                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-20 13:54                       ` Thanos Apollo
2024-09-20 14:48                         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-09-20 14:23 ` Max Nikulin

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