From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Patch: Replacing the style of the More/Hide Rest button in Customize Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 02:52:19 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87oe13vv9a.fsf@jurta.org> References: <43F7AB0E.1050407@student.lu.se> <87lkw7jn54.fsf@jurta.org> <43F8DDF0.9030505@student.lu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1140405868 20522 80.91.229.2 (20 Feb 2006 03:24:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 03:24:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 20 04:24:26 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FB1es-0005dq-GF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 04:24:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FB1ep-0005gZ-V5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:24:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FB0Jk-0008Tt-Iw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:58:24 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FB0Ji-0008TG-R6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:58:24 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FB0Ji-0008TC-Hy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:58:22 -0500 Original-Received: from [194.126.101.111] (helo=mail.neti.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FB0Pd-0005I9-Tn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:04:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.neti.ee (80-235-43-236-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.43.236]) by Relayhost1.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C75860B1; Mon, 20 Feb 2006 03:58:17 +0200 (EET) Original-To: Lennart Borgman In-Reply-To: <43F8DDF0.9030505@student.lu.se> (Lennart Borgman's message of "Sun, 19 Feb 2006 22:06:56 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:50796 Archived-At: >> Are you sure the "More/Hide Rest" button is a link? To me it looks >> like a typical button where pushing performs some action. A link for me >> is something that leads to another place. >> > It is a matter of taste. Or maybe perception. I think the Customize > buffers are easier to view with "More/Hide Rest" looking like links. And > I do not think it is hard to understand the meaning, I have seen this > usage in many web pages. I've never seen a link that hides/shows parts of a page. Instead of that, usually the following icons indicate a place to click to show/hide: [+] - show [-] - hide [>] - show [v] - hide You can see how good this looks in customization buffers after copying emacs/etc/images/ezimage/doc-plus.xpm to emacs/etc/images/right.xpm, and emacs/etc/images/ezimage/doc-minus.xpm to emacs/etc/images/down.xpm in your Emacs source tree and restarting Emacs. If you don't like these icons then you can try copying emacs/etc/images/ezimage/tag-gt.xpm to emacs/etc/images/right.xpm, and emacs/etc/images/ezimage/tag-v.xpm to emacs/etc/images/down.xpm. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/