From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bill Wohler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [mange@freemail.hu: grep-tree doesn't shell-quote-argument] Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 09:06:58 -0700 Organization: Newt Software Message-ID: <87odysgtst.fsf@olgas.newt.com> References: <8564l1ok8v.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1145808623 1223 80.91.229.2 (23 Apr 2006 16:10:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 16:10:23 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 23 18:10:21 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXhAB-0005vT-VL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:10:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXhAB-0004to-FJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:10:19 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FXh9z-0004tc-5I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:10:07 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1FXh9y-0004tC-F0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:10:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FXh9x-0004t6-Ux for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:10:05 -0400 Original-Received: from [80.91.229.2] (helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1FXhC0-0004Lk-7j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:12:12 -0400 Original-Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FXh9u-0005sv-0M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:10:02 +0200 Original-Received: from h-64-105-34-169.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net ([64.105.34.169]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:10:01 +0200 Original-Received: from wohler by h-64-105-34-169.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2006 18:10:01 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-Lines: 34 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: h-64-105-34-169.snvacaid.dynamic.covad.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jkapA59FjgY5leyEK+H0nINscSY= X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:53264 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > >> Below is a patch which merges grep-tree into grep-find, with >> the new grep-tree interface as the default API, while a C-u >> prefix requests using the old grep-find interface. >> >> That makes it an incompatible change. > > Yes, intendedly so. > >> grep-find has existed since years ago; grep-tree is new. >> >> We could avoid that incompatible change by making grep-find >> with C-u implement the grep-tree behavior. >> >> Is there some specific reason you propose the incompatible way? > > It's the more beginner-friendly version. The old variant is the > "specialist" version which you'd use if you need full control. Using > C-u to demand the easier variant seems like a backward way of using a > prefix argument. The price is an incompatibility in the default user > interface to previous versions. Personally, I consider it an > improvement. I agree completely. Since we're bumping the major version number of improvements, there isn't a reason not to allow improvements such as this. -- Bill Wohler http://www.newt.com/wohler/ GnuPG ID:610BD9AD Maintainer of comp.mail.mh FAQ and MH-E. Vote Libertarian! If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane.