How to handle overfilled mode line?

How to handle overfilled mode line?

[Tassilo Horn]

Hi,

my mode line is overly filled with much useful informations from
different modes like circe, emms, etc. If the buffer name is a littlebit
longer, it doesn't fit on my screen anymore.

How can I handle this? Is there a solution like a multi-line mode line,
or a mode line which scrolls like many mp3 players do?

Bye and thanks,
Tassilo
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Re: How to handle overfilled mode line?

[rgb]

> my mode line is overly filled with much useful informations from
> different modes like circe, emms, etc. If the buffer name is a littlebit
> longer, it doesn't fit on my screen anymore.
> 
24" monitors have come way down in price :-)

Re: How to handle overfilled mode line?

[robert.thorpe]

Tassilo Horn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> my mode line is overly filled with much useful informations from
> different modes like circe, emms, etc. If the buffer name is a littlebit
> longer, it doesn't fit on my screen anymore.
>
> How can I handle this? Is there a solution like a multi-line mode line,
> or a mode line which scrolls like many mp3 players do?

What a painful problem, I can think of no good solution.

What you can do though is try to be more careful about what minor-modes
your associating with any major modes.  Rather than starting minor
modes in a blanket fashion try hook them only to the major modes you
really need them in.

Re: How to handle overfilled mode line?

[Tassilo Horn]

robert.thorpe@antenova.com writes:

Hi Robert,

>> How can I handle this? Is there a solution like a multi-line mode
>> line, or a mode line which scrolls like many mp3 players do?
>
> What a painful problem, I can think of no good solution.

Too bad.

> What you can do though is try to be more careful about what
> minor-modes your associating with any major modes. Rather than
> starting minor modes in a blanket fashion try hook them only to the
> major modes you really need them in.

I do so, but if the buffer name is "*followup to robert thorpe on
gnu.emacs.help*" there's not much room left anyway.

Bye,
Tassilo
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Re: How to handle overfilled mode line?

[Chris F.A. Johnson]

On 2006-10-05, Tassilo Horn wrote:
> robert.thorpe@antenova.com writes:
>
> Hi Robert,
>
>>> How can I handle this? Is there a solution like a multi-line mode
>>> line, or a mode line which scrolls like many mp3 players do?
>>
>> What a painful problem, I can think of no good solution.
>
> Too bad.
>
>> What you can do though is try to be more careful about what
>> minor-modes your associating with any major modes. Rather than
>> starting minor modes in a blanket fashion try hook them only to the
>> major modes you really need them in.
>
> I do so, but if the buffer name is "*followup to robert thorpe on
> gnu.emacs.help*" there's not much room left anyway.

   Use a file name instead of a précis!

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Re: How to handle overfilled mode line?

[Tassilo Horn]

"Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohnson@gmail.com> writes:

Hi Chris,

>    Use a file name instead of a précis!

What's a "précis"?

Bye,
Tassilo
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Re: How to handle overfilled mode line?

[Pascal Bourguignon]

Tassilo Horn <heimdall@uni-koblenz.de> writes:

> "Chris F.A. Johnson" <cfajohnson@gmail.com> writes:
>
> Hi Chris,
>
>>    Use a file name instead of a précis!
>
> What's a "précis"?

That's a précis, with a bad encoding.

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Re: How to handle overfilled mode line?

[Reiner Steib]

On Thu, Oct 05 2006, Tassilo Horn wrote:

>>> How can I handle this? Is there a solution like a multi-line mode
>>> line, or a mode line which scrolls like many mp3 players do?

Scrolling would be terribly, YMMV.

> I do so, but if the buffer name is "*followup to robert thorpe on
> gnu.emacs.help*" there's not much room left anyway.

Write a version of `message-buffer-name' that uses a customizable
format string.  You may look at
`message-insert-formated-citation-line' (Gnus CVS trunk) to get some
ideas.

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Re: How to handle overfilled mode line?

[Tassilo Horn]

Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:

Hi Reiner,

>>>> How can I handle this? Is there a solution like a multi-line mode
>>>> line, or a mode line which scrolls like many mp3 players do?
>
> Scrolling would be terribly, YMMV.

Well, ok. Scrolling is not the best idea. It should be able to use
multiple lines and wrap arround automatically, if the user wants.

>> I do so, but if the buffer name is "*followup to robert thorpe on
>> gnu.emacs.help*" there's not much room left anyway.
>
> Write a version of `message-buffer-name' that uses a customizable
> format string.

I like long self-explanatory buffer names. And even if I cut down buffer
names to 10 chars it would still be inconvenient. The contents shouldn't
adapt to the mode line, it should be the other way round.

Bye,
Tassilo
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Re: How to handle overfilled mode line?

[Kim F. Storm]

Tassilo Horn <heimdall@uni-koblenz.de> writes:

>>>>> How can I handle this? Is there a solution like a multi-line mode
>>>>> line, or a mode line which scrolls like many mp3 players do?
>>
>> Scrolling would be terribly, YMMV.
>
> Well, ok. Scrolling is not the best idea. It should be able to use
> multiple lines and wrap arround automatically, if the user wants.

I don't think the mode line will ever span more than one line!!

On a graphical display, you can customize the "mode-line" face to use
a proportional font (e.g. helvetica) -- that typically gives you twice
the number of chars on the mode line.

-- 
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Re: How to handle overfilled mode line?

[Tassilo Horn]

no-spam@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes:

Hi Kim,

> I don't think the mode line will ever span more than one line!!

Why not? 

> On a graphical display, you can customize the "mode-line" face to use
> a proportional font (e.g. helvetica) -- that typically gives you twice
> the number of chars on the mode line.

Good advice, thank you.

Regards,
Tassilo
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Re: How to handle overfilled mode line?

[Kevin Rodgers]

robert.thorpe@antenova.com wrote:
> Tassilo Horn wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> my mode line is overly filled with much useful informations from
>> different modes like circe, emms, etc. If the buffer name is a littlebit
>> longer, it doesn't fit on my screen anymore.
>>
>> How can I handle this? Is there a solution like a multi-line mode line,
>> or a mode line which scrolls like many mp3 players do?
> 
> What a painful problem, I can think of no good solution.

How about writing a command to temporarily display the entire mode line,
using something like

(tooltip-show (format-mode-line mode-line-format t))

or

(message-box "%s" (format-mode-line mode-line-format t))

Ideally it would preserve the mode line face, though.

-- 
Kevin

Re: How to handle overfilled mode line?

[Tassilo Horn]

Kevin Rodgers <ihs_4664@yahoo.com> writes:

Hi Kevin,

> How about writing a command to temporarily display the entire mode
> line, using something like
>
> (tooltip-show (format-mode-line mode-line-format t))

That's at least a good workarround.

Bye and thanks,
Tassilo
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Re: How to handle overfilled mode line?

[Michaël Cadilhac]

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Tassilo Horn <heimdall@uni-koblenz.de> writes:

> If the buffer name is a littlebit longer, it doesn't fit on my
> screen anymore.

(setq mode-line-format '((-18 "%b")))

will print the current buffer name in the mode line, truncating it to
18 chars (for example).

Hope it helps.

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